Pros and Cons of shooting 1080p "NTSC" in PAL region?

As far as I can tell, there is no difference between full high definition formats in PAL and NTSC regions other than the frame rate.


My Nikon P530 camera gives me the choice of choosing either PAL or NTSC settings which is essentially allowing me to decide whether I want to shoot at 25fps or 30fps


As I am in PAL territory why would I want to shoot NTSC?


One reason . . . 30fps should give me motion that is a tad smoother?


I believe that all modern TVs can handle 25fps or 30fps equally well, so there should be no compatibility problem during playback.


The only negative aspects I can envisage are that the 30fps footage may produce slightly larger file sizes and if I had to mix 30fps and 25fps footage in the timeline (after multi-camera shoots) there might be problems. Generally, however, I only use one camera per film, so this wouldn't really apply.


Are my assumptions correct or flawed? Opinions please.

Posted on Sep 21, 2019 9:59 AM

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Posted on Sep 21, 2019 9:03 PM

First up - NTSC and PAL are analogue video systems and do not exist in SDI (Digital World). SDI can be SD-SDI or HD-SDI (Standard definition and High definition) respectively.


Why the camera manufacturers still refer to system settings as NTSC or PAL fails me.


It all all one system now and with SDI you can choose the frame rate you desire to film with.


Yes, correct, more frames per second, the more info recorded, the bigger the file. (If the only change is the frame rate)


Yes you are correct, the higher the frame rate the smoother the motion is.


Best practice is, Shoot, edit and export in the same frame rate, resolution, codec and file format throughout the workflow.


That is why originating on .mov for editing on Apple Computers and FCPX is my first choice. (Unless shooting RAW)


If you going to edited and export at 25 fps, then you might as well shoot at 25 fps.


Or edit and export at 29.97, then shoot at 29.97 or 30, then shoot at 30 or 50 then shoot at 50 and so on.


UNLESS, you want to slomo the footage you shot in your edit, that will be a good reason to shoot at 29.97, 30, 50, 60, 100, 120, 240 so that the slomo will be at a higher quality than if you slomo footage shot at 25 fps which will digitally create frames.


Also for the best rendering of slomo footage make sure that you select:-


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Sep 21, 2019 9:03 PM in response to Ian R. Brown

First up - NTSC and PAL are analogue video systems and do not exist in SDI (Digital World). SDI can be SD-SDI or HD-SDI (Standard definition and High definition) respectively.


Why the camera manufacturers still refer to system settings as NTSC or PAL fails me.


It all all one system now and with SDI you can choose the frame rate you desire to film with.


Yes, correct, more frames per second, the more info recorded, the bigger the file. (If the only change is the frame rate)


Yes you are correct, the higher the frame rate the smoother the motion is.


Best practice is, Shoot, edit and export in the same frame rate, resolution, codec and file format throughout the workflow.


That is why originating on .mov for editing on Apple Computers and FCPX is my first choice. (Unless shooting RAW)


If you going to edited and export at 25 fps, then you might as well shoot at 25 fps.


Or edit and export at 29.97, then shoot at 29.97 or 30, then shoot at 30 or 50 then shoot at 50 and so on.


UNLESS, you want to slomo the footage you shot in your edit, that will be a good reason to shoot at 29.97, 30, 50, 60, 100, 120, 240 so that the slomo will be at a higher quality than if you slomo footage shot at 25 fps which will digitally create frames.


Also for the best rendering of slomo footage make sure that you select:-


Sep 22, 2019 9:14 PM in response to Ian R. Brown

29.97/30fps recordings outside US/Japan can create flicker & 'moving lines' under artificial lights, esp. LEDs, 'cause AC has 50Hz.


Use 50fps in the UK …

… but:

higher frame-rates give that 'electronic' feeling to video, due to faster shutter-speeds, also known as 'soap opera look' - some like it (Peter Jackson made THE HOBBIT in 48fps), some hate the lack of motion-blur …

Sep 22, 2019 2:42 AM in response to Cedric Robertson

Thanks to both of you for the responses.


My main video camera is a Panasonic SD800 which can shoot 1080p50


Normally I shoot in that format and edit in a 50p timeline. If I am also using my Nikon, I simply shoot the Nikon footage at 25p and drop it into the SD800 project, which works perfectly OK.


Cedric, why do you suggest using "Normal" for slo-mo? I thought that option merely duplicated the frames, which is not good for the smoothest motion, whereas Frame Blending and Optical Flow interpolate and create new frames resulting in smoother action?

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