Math Type

Hello,

it is very nice for me to see that there are more people working with MathType in Pages.

I am absolutely sorry, that I cannot help.

But please allow me to ask one question hoping that someone here had different experiences and can help me.

I hope it is ok. If not, please excuse me.

I worked in El Capitan because I was told that I would have trouble with MathType in Pages (4.3) when updating to a newer version.

A few weaks I was told by Apple that I do not have to fear, I can update to Mojave and it will still work.

So I tried went to High Sierra on one of my macbooks with the consequence that I can read the old Pages files and see, open and edit all the MathType stuff, but whenever I open MathType a lot of warning windows appear in which I get the information "The Text style uses the ‚Times‘ (Plain) font, which is not available.

The ‚Times New Roman‘ (Plain) Font will be substituted."

Whenever I try to change the styles, then click apply and ok, it does not have a sustained effect, because next time I open MathType the settings are as they were before. This is extremely incommode.

So do I really have to go back to El Capitan?

Or can somebody tell me how to change the style so that the changings are saved?

In my opinion it is absolutely bad that apple does not care for an easy usable Pages version including MathType.

Beside from that there is another problem: If I save a Pages file in the iCloud it is impossible to open it again.

Best wishes

StefMann

I do not have access to MS Word, but built-in equations (not MathType sourced) in Pages v8.2.1 remain editable in LibreOffice Writer 6.3.4.2 — when exported from Pages as .docx. Though editable, the equation syntax is different.

As the Xerces C based blahtex converter used by Pages has not been updated by its third-party developers in several (7) years this may be the weak link for future releases of Pages and document compatibility.

Just used "LibreOffice" for Mac, Catalina - just double clicked on formula

Same here.

I am in big trouble because of the same issue. Stuff like this should be one of the main reasons why people would not want to use iWork.

I have been faithfully using apple pages for the longest time hoping that they would either be on top of things regarding issues like this or just purchase MathType.

I think this is a very unfair characterization of Apple. I've had my problems with Apple, but I have not upgraded to Catalina because I kept getting warnings that MathType would not not work with it. I am not sure what more they could have done. I had several other apps, including EndNote, that did not get upgraded to 64-bit until virtually the last minute. This is a serious question -- what more would you have wanted Apple to do in addition to giving you that warning dialog box when you ran MathType, and to give the warning before you upgraded to Catalina that that would break 32-bit apps, and to provide instructions on how to check which of your apps are still 32-bit? I guess before installing they could have listed all the apps you have that would not work. It is not necessary to always upgrade to the latest operating system as soon as it comes out. I am sorry for your problem. I truly am. But again, I really want to know what you think Apple could have done differently.

I suggest that you click once on the inserted equation to select it, and then increase the font size to 32 pt. Then notice how changing fonts in Pages alters the appearance of the selected equation text. Especially between Courier, Times New Roman, and Helvetica, though not limited to these fonts.

So the moral here is to capture what appeared for me the first time when I tested with different fonts, and Pages v8.2.1 displayed distinct visual differences between font selections. I concur with what you have shown, however I notice that the type of equation has some bearing in whether the characters of the equation change, or remain the same.

Einstein's equation will change character shapes based on a change of fonts:

But other than size, Eulers Theorem does not change when the above fonts are applied:

Have you obtained the Catalina patch yet? November or December was a while ago. Design Science hasn't responded to my inquiries yet. We're in a bit of a bind as my wife needs a new computer for the Spring semester and all Macs now ship with Catalina; for us, it's not a matter of waiting a while before we upgrade to Catalina on an older Mac.

I understand what you say Unsu. But we can't change the character's font in the built-in editor in Pages...

I'm sorry VikingOSX, but I don't really see a difference. See yourself in attachment.

I use Pages v8.2.1.

I use Times New Roman which is a standard font in science. It matches perfectly the Pages latex editor font. Non-serif symbols are not good for complex math equations.

Same problem here my friend!

Really a bad news! :(

Hi Mike!

I agree this is a huge bummer. I myself am probably going to wait to update to Catalina as long as possible -- although my employer / IT department has automatic updates turned on, so it might happen without my approval soon.

Either way, not sure if you have read the following from WIRIS/ MathType about the situation, so posting the link just in case:

https://lp.wiris.com/catalina/?utm_source=Download&utm_medium=MathTypeMac&utm_campaign=Catalina

WIRIS support has been helpful to me in the past also -- their email is support@wiris.com

Best of luck!

- L