Macintosh HD and Macintosh HD Data?
Why two I appear to have two drives following the Catalina update?
I erased the disc and installed fresh yet this is what appears in disk utility.
Anyone?
Thanks
iMac 27" 5K, macOS 10.15
Apple Event: May 7th at 7 am PT
Why two I appear to have two drives following the Catalina update?
I erased the disc and installed fresh yet this is what appears in disk utility.
Anyone?
Thanks
iMac 27" 5K, macOS 10.15
My inquiry is different. I upgraded from Majove to Catalina , but then I determined that Catalina was not working as satisfactorily for my needs as Mojoave. I then reinstalled Mojave. However, I still have both a HD and HD-Data folder characteristic of Catalina, but not Mojave. The computer works fine so far, but the HD-Data did not exist on my Mojove system (according to earlier versions of Mojave backed up on my external hard drive) before I upgraded to Catalina and then reverted to Mojave.
My questions are:
Thanks for any guidance that you can offer.
Thanks for the reply, they both show up in finder, I have attached images, and they have the exact same folders.
I am very confused by this whole thing, it seems there is an issue with the installation and/or restoration of data from time machine.
The Finder shows it as one drive. Ignore the other's existence.
What did you try to restore from? Was it a pre-Catalina backup or a Catalina backup?
You can't restore a pre-Catalina OS drive to a Catalina file system. It will fail.
I restored data after installing the OS after formatting the drive.
They clearly show up to me as separate drives, am I reading the picture wrong?\
I would just ignore the second drive. You can't write to it anyway.
It isn't correct, but I doubt it would cause any problems.
What's even stranger is that Time Machine will not back-up on my new MBP 16" if both drives are mounted. I have to unmount the data drive. That seems like it would miss important data to back-up? I don't know, since Catalina everything seems to just have gotten more complicated with Macs. What happens to "it just works" mantra that we used to live by. I feel like this is becoming more like an old Windoze machine which was a big reason for changing to Macs several years ago. What gives?
I agree, Barry.
I used every Microsoft OS going back to the early DOS days. When Win-10 arrived with all it's 'issues' I opted to change to an iMac.
Loved it until . . . CATALINA
Little issues have started reminding me of MS systems - And I don't like the feeling!
Check your Disk Utility app. There might be a “Mac HD/Macintosh HD” disk drive that is unnecessary and only taking up a few KB/MB of storage. That’s what happened to me, there was a third unnecessary drive. Also the program you’re using to check your drives with the photo attached isn’t Disk Utility?
Sadly that is exactly what happened to my computer and then beyond that it split my fusion drive into two drives. On a very long call to Apple Support (and a chain of calls every time OS was updated in the last 6 months and created issues for me) the only resolution was to format my Drive go into to terminal to rejoin the two drives and start over.
Worse than anything is that the whole back up thing with time machine that has worked for me for 15 years now? the new update wiped the external drive clean. All of my back up files are gone, nothing is accessible. So, after another long call with Support they confirmed that the Time Machine back ups for the last three years are useless.
I couldn’t be more upset and I have no answers
@JimForbes
believe it or not, I did have double back ups on separate hard drives. It was to no avail. The crazy thing is, I can enter time machine and “see” everything but can not access it. I can even search the data and items will appear but I click on them and the screen goes blank.
I go back in every couple of days to poke around and see if something is going to change but am not holding out any hope.
Interesting. Does one of the "Data Drives" have nothing in it and the other showing there is? At the Apple store we checked both of the Data volumes. 1 had material and the other was empty. So we just deleted the empty one and now Time Machine works well and haven't noticed any loss of data or any other malfunctions on the computer. BTW, the new 16" rocks.
I have the same problem. I wish I would've researched all those issues regarding Catalina before I upgraded. After a complicated upgrade, I was just happy that it seemed stable. Now I just noticed Time Machine couldn't back up and I came looking for info and see this...three drives instead of one, back-ups rendered useless... I think my Mac days are counted. The mighty Mac is not what it used to be.
I recommend you take your device to an Apple store, if you want to keep your data. Otherwise if you have Mojave are you able to erase your drives properly with the manuals from the Apple website and reinstall MacOS Mojave? If you want to try this way I hope this works.
Before I risk losing any data, I need to understand whether there is any risk to leaving the situation where it is now. As I said in prior post, my computer works fine. Every time I muck around with rebooting and reinstalling, it takes enormous amounts of time, and something frequently will not work right until I finally figure out the problem, but sometimes with a substantial loss of time.
So, again, my question is: what's the risk of leaving well enough alone?
I "Upgraded" to Catalina. When I found out that most of my Apps were not compatible, I tried to revert back to Mojave via Time Machine. What a nightmare. I kept getting the message that it failed. I went into Disk Utilities and tried to erase the complete hard drive with the Data volume as I thought that would be causing the problem (it would only allow me to reformat as an APFS format not a Mac OS Journaled format) , but it would not delete the Data Volume.
I ended up erasing the Data volume several times and eventually I was able to reload my Mojave back-up, but I still have the Data volume showing on my desktop which is duplicate of the hard drive.
I have been amazed at all of the replies and issues folks are having.
Apple screwed the pooch on this one all in the interest of assimilating us into the Apple family with no real point of return. I embrace the security standpoint of the upgrade but the rollout and the issues it has caused make me wonder what is happening in the spaceship.
I have finally gotten my system stabilized but have never recovered so much data that was lost as a result of the eraser the update havoc wreaked on my system. This update caused TimeMachine to fail, every file in it is a useless 2kb or 4kb place marker and can not be recovered. I have gotten lucky with some things by literally clawing through the backups file by file to recover music and documents but past email folders and messages are dead and gone forever. Many years of Time Machine wiped out in an hour.....
It has been an absolute nightmare with daily occurrences of angst at not having an important document and hoping beyond hope I can dig it out of old hard drives stored on my bookshelf.
Cheers Apple.
So obviously the drive is separate with the system files, then the data files.
Whats the process for installing a new SSD now based on this new way of separating the files for Catalina?
I’m concerned that if I don’t do this properly, I’ll lose all my data.
The problem is, I was following the steps to restore the SSD by using the SATA to USB 3.0 cable, so I’m not too sure if it will partition my data. I selected restore on my SSD from MacOS HD, not MacOS HD data. Slightly concerned now 😂
Macintosh HD and Macintosh HD Data?