MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise

I dont work without power supply a lot, but i agree, battery time is ABSOLUTE TRASH 2-3MAX, browsing, especially since i need to switch off graphic card switching, because of even more bizare issue with Bad Magic, that i already replaced a computer once.

They're not "overheating," they are running hotter than you would like them to. If they were actually overheating, they would shut down.

Connecting a laptop to an external monitor is not "too much," but certainly if you are going to use your system like that regularly, especially for intensive tasks, you would be much happier with the performance you get from an iMac, iMac Pro or Mac Pro.

A laptop, any laptop, is a study in compromises and trade-offs.

Thank you for explaining our options. Now just let apple fix the broken computer ;)

I can't believe that there are really people who try to tell everyone that it's fine that brand new computer performs worse than 5 year old machine. Even funnier that those people accept such thing and are happy about it. Wow.

Hmm I didn't see anything on William's post that said that it's fine that a new computer performs worse than an old one and he never stated he was happy about it. What I saw on William's post was him offering help and a solution for people with specific computing needs. I can't believe there are people here who throw words in other's mouths.

If this brand new computer with specs that should blow the 2015 machine away would perform at least just as well with external display connected as that machine did, this thread wouldn't exist. Been using macbook (other laptops previously) to drive 2 external screens since 2010 (btw it was one of the selling points for 2016 machine with tb 3 ports) and this is the first machine that struggles with that while idling. Fun fact - i've never changed the resolution of those screens - it's still 1920x1080 and 10 years later I can hear my computer struggling with the task that was just fine with all previous gen macs.

When it is cold in the room fans run normally, if it is warm in the room they run much more. Fan noise to me is normal and wouldn't prevent a purchase. Also the laptop hardware is very different among laptops. It is too general to label one laptop year's fan running more than another. Are you using dedicated graphics cards? A more efficient CPU with less cores will run much cooler than other types. I'd suggest you look closely at your hardware and environment temps, before comparing unknowns.

It struggles with yours and a few others here. Not everyone's because mine does not. Yes I do connect mine with an external display and I've ran HD videos and other apps and the dGPU is activated. For over an hour of use my 16" stayed warm at best and no audible fans running. The only time my fans have ever ran is when I'm transcoding video on FCPX. I've hesitated even talking about my experience because of certain people here who demand to know what external hardware is being used, temp numbers and resolution settings and such. They act like you're not being honest simply because they are having a bad experience and some others don't. I will not put out temps or test my GPU and report numbers. The bottom line my Core i9 2.3 16" 32GB Ram 5500M 8GB 1TB SSD runs very well when connected to an external monitor. I don't have a special edition model. Also I'm on reddit daily and I see people with 16" MBP connected to monitors and they always report how happy they are. I never threads like this one and people on Reddit are very candid with their posts.

Done here. Have a great year.

"But, we have two people who can post unfiltered with no consequences (moderators ignore) telling us that its not an issue or purchase more expensive hardware for Apple"

It's not against the forum rules for members to suggest proper hardware based on specific computing needs.

It's not against the forum rules for members to suggest proper hardware based on specific computing needs.

It isn't against the rules, but it is monumentally unhelpful, because Apple is pitching this prematurely-released MacBook Pro to users who want the power of a desktop in a portable form factor. From the MacBook Pro home page.

"Designed for those who defy limits and change the world, the new MacBook Pro is by far the most powerful notebook we’ve ever made. With an immersive 16-inch Retina display, superfast processors, next-generation graphics, the largest battery capacity ever in a MacBook Pro, a new Magic Keyboard, and massive storage, it’s the ultimate pro notebook for the ultimate user."

Doesn't sound like they are saying I should buy a MacPro.

And that has been me asking you about testing, because we are troubleshooting on this forum, not looking for Apple apologists. All I have asked for several times was to find out what iStat readings look like when you are running with the machine connected to an external monitor with the lid up. If you are going to hang out here, it would be great if you can help us see how your machine is different. That's all.

I could have bought a Lenovo or a Dell if I wanted to listen to fan noise while browsing the web.

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I neither asked about 10.15.4 any more than you did William, but they seem to have no desire to censor any of your posts.

And I don't edit multiple streams of 4K ProRes in FCPX; that's just the point. I am browsing the web connected to an external monitor. I shouldn't have to listen to fan noise while I am doing that.

Have a nice Day, William.

I completely agree with you Tim. The complete lack of appreciation for basic engineering principles being displayed by a couple of frequent posters here is breath taking. I'm with you; we're all with you.

Apple have an issue here and we all wish that they would live up to their brand and get on with fixing it. If they can't fix, I'd like to know.

And before I hear all the reasons why complaining in the forum is pointless because Apple isn't listening... if Apple isn't taking an interest in a thread with this amount of unanimous concern and activity, then they have lost touch with their customers. I sincerely hope that this is not the case.

"Also I'm on reddit daily and I see people with 16" MBP connected to monitors and they always report how happy they are."

There are quite a few users on Reddit complaining about their MBP 16," some of which are connected to monitors. Many are complaining about kernel panics, a bigger problem discussed in other threads on this site. A quick search of Reddit and you can find those complaints.

We don't know yet whether the kernel panics are related to other GPU behavior, such as the card's tendency to use a lot of wattage and put out a lot of heat. However, mine happen when connected to a monitor and streaming video, suggesting there might be a link.

Thanks.

These types of errors are exceptionally hard to diagnose; this panic appears to be due to a Processor Reorder Buffer timeout.

(A CATERR is a Catastrophic Error, one the processor cannot recover from.)

If you're an engineer or just curious:

Processor Reorder Buffer (ROB) Timeout