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Macbook pro 16 2019 freezes randomly and restarts

I just bought a new macbook pro 16 inch 2019 that came with Catalina, I set it up as a new mac and installed some apps (Chrome) and started using it.

The problem is it always freezes at some points and I have to manually restart it by pressing the power button for a few seconds until it shuts down.


This might be just me, but I think this shouldn't happen on a laptop thats costs 2699€.

I updated it to the last version of Catalina and this didn't fix the problem.

I wanted to go back to Mojave, not an option I guess.


What is going on Apple?

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Posted on Dec 1, 2019 8:27 AM

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Posted on Feb 29, 2020 12:21 PM

Darn it ... took too long to post: reposting.


Interestingly I too have a Space Grey MacBook Pro that was "custom".

My specs are: i9 2.3ghz, 32gb Ram, 1TB storage, AMD 5500m 4gb


It took 4 days to troubleshoot but I believe I have a reproducible way to test the Intel 630 UHD GPU issues people are having.


  1. Download Geekbench 5 (I used version 5.1.0)
  2. Select "Later" when the dialog pops up about paying for it. You'll be testing in "Tryout Mode"
  3. Look the the left of the program and you'll select the "Compute" Benchmark
  4. Select Compute API: METAL (OpenCL doesn't error out but Metal does.)
  5. Select Computer Device: Intel UHD 630 Graphics
  6. Open the Console Log app BEFORE YOU run the GEEKBENCH 5 test
  7. Select "Errors and Faults" from the Console log app. It should be at the top.
  8. Start the GeekBench test.
  9. Watch all the red dots proliferate the Console Log app. Most of them will be IntelAccel errors. Many times you will likely see the internal GPU restarting as evidenced by the attached screenshot. Look for signalHardwareError in your logs.

Here is my video of the whole thing. https://youtu.be/Rxh3wATgPOA


During my 7 minute video I try to select the "About the Mac" it takes almost 3 minutes for the window to render while the test is running. You can see in the Activity Monitor in the video it showing as unresponsive.


I truly hope this helps folks - and I wish you all luck. I love Apple and their products. This is obviously something they need to admit and get ahead of because this is turning into something that appears to be a real issue.


My laptop is currently at Apple repair awaiting a logicboard (MLB).


Edited because I hit post too quickly.

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Jan 28, 2020 3:20 AM in response to consens

Apple have always been in denial about issues with their products until ages later and huge public pressure.

Under pressure to have a mobile 4K video editing solution, and knowing the keyboard was awful, but willing to suffer the low travel keys, I bought a fully loaded 15" i9 MB Pro in May 2019 for £4000. Yeh, four grand, as we say in the U of K. What I didn't expect was to constantly hit the Esc key (and rest of touch bar) by accident, causing chaos - I have been touch typing since 1980s and type properly. Worse, and the key issue, the machine would slow down under load, throttle, so a pain. They then scrapped it (a first for Apple) and launched the 16", that whilst retaining the central touch bar, did improve the other issues. (I am typing this on one now.) So I politely asked Apple to swap my troubled 15 for a 16 or refund me. Made a very good case. Their staff at the store were rude and in denial, saying "Sell it online and buy a 16". I was dumbfounded. I gave up, flogged it in eBay for about £1600 and bought this £4200 16 inch because I need it to produce videos. Will seek compensation later. Apple have never done this before, the old AirPods are still for sale (pre Pros) as are Apple Watches prior to the Series 5 and some other even older products. By withdrawing the 2018/19 15 Inch MacBook Pro, Apple were admitting it was a flawed design.

Jan 28, 2020 3:50 AM in response to amaury-t

I have an appointment @ Apple this week, but because I bought this on Amazon I was told by support they won't exchange it! I then spoke to Amazon this morning and they will replace or refund without question (only have had this for a week) BUT, they also offered me €450 compensation if I just keep it! I almost fell off my stool when the Amazon representative made that suggestion. I even received an email confirming there offer that is good for 2 weeks, so I have time to debate if I just live with the problem. Right now I have no sudden restarts, it's just when waking up and even documents I haven't saved prior to the "wake up crash" are saved (I've tested this several times)! What a dilemma! I can save a hunk of change with just living with this mess or start the exchange process that will only function over Amazon! At least Amazon is fair about the situation & not like Apple that refuses to do ANYTHING!!!!

Jan 28, 2020 9:21 AM in response to fregsfdvbfeg

I have this issue too. 16" i9, 2.3Ghz, 32GB, 1TB SSD, 4GB Vram.

I experienced the random lockup once or twice during the 12 hrs of usage. the random lockup occurs after 2 week of the device with me. Just like the others, occurs when using Chrome.


I used to have the random restart too. but the SMC reset fixed it somehow.


I hope this is a software issue and not a hardware one. I have the apple care + so if this tends to be a hardware issue I know im covered.


By the way, i didn't experience this kind of issues on my 2015 Macbook 13". What's happening Apple?!

Jan 29, 2020 1:45 AM in response to midoreigh

It's random but I seem to have suffered the freezing when macbook went to sleep under intense load, & plugged in to power.


So perhaps set power options to sleep after a minute, and leave some video rendering.


My experience has been to walk away from a video rendering, come back to a macbook I thought was sleeping, only to be logging in after a restart and everything is closed.

Jan 29, 2020 5:58 AM in response to midoreigh

Does your MacBook have problems when going into the “sleep” mode? Or actually it would be waking up again? You would receive an error message that gives you the opportunity to “ignore” or “send” (to Apple). Here an example of the message you’ll see when you hit send and if you have this then you’ve got the same issue:


panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff7f87de1a97): GPU Panic: mux-regs 4 3 3f 1f 0 0 severity 3 WS-ready 1 switch-state 0 IG FBs 1 EG FBs 0:0 power-state 4 3D idle HDA idle system-state 2 power-level 5:0 power-retry 0:0 connect-change 0 : PowerPlay Failed Resume.

 

 

Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address

0xffffff81f5153710 : 0xffffff8003b3bb1b 

0xffffff81f5153760 : 0xffffff8003c733e5 

0xffffff81f51537a0 : 0xffffff8003c64e5e 

0xffffff81f51537f0 : 0xffffff8003ae2a40 

0xffffff81f5153810 : 0xffffff8003b3b207 

0xffffff81f5153910 : 0xffffff8003b3b5eb 

0xffffff81f5153960 : 0xffffff80042d24f9 

0xffffff81f51539d0 : 0xffffff7f87de1a97 

0xffffff81f5153a30 : 0xffffff7f87e6f14d 

0xffffff81f5153cb0 : 0xffffff7f87e3d6de 

0xffffff81f5153ce0 : 0xffffff7f87e6eaf0 

0xffffff81f5153d10 : 0xffffff7f87e58075 

0xffffff81f5153d30 : 0xffffff7f87e58011 

0xffffff81f5153d50 : 0xffffff7f87e57e9d 

0xffffff81f5153d80 : 0xffffff7f877ac1fe 

0xffffff81f5153e20 : 0xffffff7f877abf5c 

0xffffff81f5153e50 : 0xffffff7f877b2d35 

0xffffff81f5153ee0 : 0xffffff8004240ccd 

0xffffff81f5153f30 : 0xffffff800423f612 

0xffffff81f5153f70 : 0xffffff800423eb9c 

0xffffff81f5153fa0 : 0xffffff8003ae213e 

      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:

        com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(569.3)[7B5CA52B-0BD1-34AB-BFC9-7D5C3A0DBE7C]@0xffffff7f877a1000->0xffffff7f877f1fff

           dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[1286D5E5-A6A1-3C44-A244-04C068903DB2]@0xffffff7f84510000

        com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl2(4.5.21)[E2AFD12C-9235-3947-9B27-B6340DBBFF76]@0xffffff7f87dd2000->0xffffff7f87de6fff

           dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl(4.5.21)[0558DCE2-290A-3082-A0A5-21AFF61E92F0]@0xffffff7f87dcf000

           dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.4)[3467C105-9354-3BD2-85F3-E5AEF94BD275]@0xffffff7f84507000

           dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[1286D5E5-A6A1-3C44-A244-04C068903DB2]@0xffffff7f84510000

           dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(569.3)[7B5CA52B-0BD1-34AB-BFC9-7D5C3A0DBE7C]@0xffffff7f877a1000

           dependency: com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl(4.5.21)[EF326A60-9936-3267-A6E7-0044C7B4A952]@0xffffff7f877f2000

        com.apple.kext.AMDRadeonX6000Framebuffer(3.0.4)[9AB01170-DAF7-3848-8E2B-7428D56A860E]@0xffffff7f87e31000->0xffffff7f88239fff

           dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.4)[3467C105-9354-3BD2-85F3-E5AEF94BD275]@0xffffff7f84507000

           dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[1286D5E5-A6A1-3C44-A244-04C068903DB2]@0xffffff7f84510000

           dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(569.3)[7B5CA52B-0BD1-34AB-BFC9-7D5C3A0DBE7C]@0xffffff7f877a1000

           dependency: com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl(4.5.21)[EF326A60-9936-3267-A6E7-0044C7B4A952]@0xffffff7f877f2000

 

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Boot args: chunklist-security-epoch=0 -chunklist-no-rev2-dev

 

Mac OS version:

19C57

 

Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 19.2.0: Sat Nov 9 03:47:04 PST 2019; root:xnu-6153.61.1~20/RELEASE_X86_64

Kernel UUID: C3E7E405-C692-356B-88D3-C30041FD1E72

Kernel slide:    0x0000000003800000

Kernel text base: 0xffffff8003a00000

__HIB text base: 0xffffff8003900000

System model name: MacBookPro16,1 (Mac-E1008331FDC96864)

System shutdown begun: NO

 

System uptime in nanoseconds: 705304845393

last loaded kext at 647296069662: >usb.IOUSBHostHIDDevice    1.2 (addr 0xffffff7f87aca000, size 45056)

last unloaded kext at 194810681378: >usb.!UHostPacketFilter    1.0 (addr 0xffffff7f863e9000, size 24576)

loaded kexts:

@filesystems.smbfs       3.4

@kext.AMDRadeonX6000           3.0.4

@kext.AMDRadeonServiceManager        3.0.4

>!AGraphicsDevicePolicy              4.5.21

@fileutil              20.036.15

@AGDCPluginDisplayMetrics     4


etc...

Jan 29, 2020 7:26 AM in response to nahumyamin

The new update came out today! Hmmmm, I’ll try it out but I already fixed the problem when connected to power by doing the SMC resets & changing the power settings:

System Preferences > Energy Saver


And uncheck the Automatic graphics switching."


It only gives me these messages now when it sleeps under battery use! I canceled my Apple appointment because they will just want to reimage anyways & I already tried that with NO SUCCESS!!! I’ll just live with the mess...

Jan 31, 2020 8:05 AM in response to consens

Something that I didn't mentioned in my previous post is that in addition to disabling the Automatic Graphic Switch I also have my Touch Bar configured as Expanded Strip, showing the old function keys statically instead of showing dynamic content (App Controls).


I decided to share this because few days ago I decided to switch back to the default Touch Bar configuration with App Controls that change depending on the app or activity that you are doing and few hours after enabling it my laptop fans went crazy and the whole system got unresponsive so I had to reboot it using the power button, as soon as it booted again I changed my Touch Bar config back to Expanded Strip and everything is working again.


So if I have Automatic Graphic Switching turned on or my Touch Bar set to App Controls my system is almost un usable having to manually reboot at least 2 or 3 times per days.


Another thing that I noticed while testing with Automatic Graphic Switch turned on today is when the Intel graphic card is in use even basic system are bit laggy, like switching between spaces or get in / out of full screen, everything works great when the AMD 5500M 8GB is in use (I left the automatic graphic switch turned off)


I am running the latest OS version 10.15.3 (19D76).

Feb 3, 2020 10:26 AM in response to gnocchi

I sent mine back!!! As of Friday it didn’t start in normal mode any longer! For some reason it ran for 2 days prior to this issue without problems, and then one time “lid close” and that was all she wrote! Spent hours trying to fix it using all the tricks in the book (again) to include complete re-image, to no avail!!! What a piece of crap!!!! And of course Apple support (called 2x with about 2 hours waiting time) couldn’t help what so ever & seemed to not even know the problem exists! When I asked if they ever look at the Apple help forums they said “this is not an official website recognized by Appel” although this is on their website as link! In summary, send it back if you still can, drink a big Jackie & try to forget you wanted so many brain cells on something that, according to Apple, doesn’t exist...

Feb 4, 2020 12:36 PM in response to gnocchi

It's either the mainboard or processor! Nobody from Apple will be able to help you because it's simply a HW error that they don't even acknowledge exists! As I stated before, I sent my MacBook Pro "16 back after 2 weeks of nothing but problems & purchased a MacBook Air! Couldn't be happier with this decision because I haven't had 1 error since I've owned it (24 hours). Did some homework prior to this purchase & nobody complained about Kernel Panics, standby problems, etc.


Buying a MacBook Pro is like playing the lottery = maybe they function without a problem or they crash multiple time per day. You'll never get rid of this problem sir if it exists & sooner or later you won't even be able to use the thing unless it's started in "safe mode" only, even if you wait a 1,000 Apple updates!


Good luck!

Feb 5, 2020 11:33 AM in response to consens

With the GPU switching disabled, I managed to make it over a month but half an hour ago, my 16" panicked with a BAD MAGIC message on reboot. I did not get the option to send the report to Apple which I found odd. No video running, just a few browser windows open. This time, the fan did not spin up as if the unit was overheating, but it might have been at the very beginning of the cycle since it made sort of a "ping" sound as the screens went blank. Am still on 10.15.2. I strongly recommend returning any unit that is within the return window and walking away because it is not worth the aggravation, especially for a $3000 notebook. I would also recommend avoiding new purchases of the 16" altogether especially as an upgrade from a 15" since loss of work is costly and Apple's costly, ineffective Applecare coverage provides no solution other than to reload the operating system and wait until it crashes again. Once you are past the return window, you are stuck.

Feb 5, 2020 2:09 PM in response to Nat_c

I’m so happy I got Ris of mine before the return window expires! Bought a MacBook Air 13” like I had for years before & NO PROBLEMS WHAT SO EVER! The MacBook Pro is the worst computer I have ever had! As someone had mentioned in all the forums I looked at trying to somehow fix the problem “it’s like having a computer from the mid 90’s”! Good luck to anybody that has one, but it if you believe the problems will disappear magically using one of the suggestions in this forum, FORGET IT!!!! Thanks Apple for making my life miserable for the couple of weeks I owned that piece of CRAP!!!!!!!!!

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