International FaceTime calls

We were surprised by a $150 bill by ATT above our regular charges and found out they charged my husband for 2 AUDIO FaceTime calls (international) he made while being at home (where we use our home's WIFI). We were ready to cancel our ATT acounts and move to a different carrier because this is a rip off. I know that Facetime audio and video calls use data (either home wifi or plan data 4G/5G/LTE etc). SO how is this possible?? After being on the phone with a representative, who was nice and willing to help us, it is still not clear to us what happened. I make international FT calls frequently and this never happened (that we are aware of!!). The representative indicated that if you place an international FT call either audio or video, and the recipient of the call abroad looses WIFI connection, you are charged automatically for "minutes" of the call, at $3 per minute!!! That is insane. They credited the money, but only part of it, saying that they will block international calls if the recipient of the call "looses" the internet signal....??? Anyway, they ended up charging $20, based on the new calculation as if we used blabla bla something else. I am still slightly ****** off and will consider switching. Does anyone have a similar experience with ATT or another carrier? This seems like a ripoff to me.

iPhone 8, iOS 13

Posted on Jan 28, 2020 8:22 AM

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Posted on Jan 28, 2020 9:55 AM

Not possible. Facetime calls are internet based calls, they cannot use voice minutes. They only use cellular data or Wifi as you said. The call goes through an Apple server via the internet to connect to the other device. It has nothing to do with your carrier at all.


If the recipient lost internet connection for any reason, then the call would have been immediately and entirely disconnected.


There is simply no way for the Facetime call to use voice minutes. It simply does not work that way.


Being an internet based call, there is no such thing as an International Facetime call. Its just a call, the fact the recipient is in another country is meaningless given the way FaceTime works. The call is exactly the same whether you call someone that is 5 feet in front of you, or someone who is 10000 miles away. FaceTime is also free, since its an Apple specific service, not a carrier one, there's no way for AT&T to charge you for it in any way. To them, the call, if using cell data, would just appear as a stream of data no different than a video stream from youtube, or a large file being uploaded and downloaded with the only indication being the server its connecting to route the call would be an Apple server. If using Wifi, they would not see the call at all.


Whatever AT&T is doing is clearly not right.

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Jan 28, 2020 9:55 AM in response to AMK79

Not possible. Facetime calls are internet based calls, they cannot use voice minutes. They only use cellular data or Wifi as you said. The call goes through an Apple server via the internet to connect to the other device. It has nothing to do with your carrier at all.


If the recipient lost internet connection for any reason, then the call would have been immediately and entirely disconnected.


There is simply no way for the Facetime call to use voice minutes. It simply does not work that way.


Being an internet based call, there is no such thing as an International Facetime call. Its just a call, the fact the recipient is in another country is meaningless given the way FaceTime works. The call is exactly the same whether you call someone that is 5 feet in front of you, or someone who is 10000 miles away. FaceTime is also free, since its an Apple specific service, not a carrier one, there's no way for AT&T to charge you for it in any way. To them, the call, if using cell data, would just appear as a stream of data no different than a video stream from youtube, or a large file being uploaded and downloaded with the only indication being the server its connecting to route the call would be an Apple server. If using Wifi, they would not see the call at all.


Whatever AT&T is doing is clearly not right.

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