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Turned off app refresh, apps still refresh

I turned off app refresh years ago but within the last 4-6 months my apps on my phone have started to disregard it. I assumed it was because of having an iPhone 7 so I upgraded to an XR and it still does it. Any time I leave Facebook for 2 seconds the entire feed refreshes. I leave Amazon to answer a message and come back to it refreshed to the very beginning losing what I was looking at. Now my Facebook can’t search when tagging people. Could it be apple?

iPhone XR, iOS 13

Posted on Feb 9, 2020 4:16 PM

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Posted on Feb 9, 2020 5:31 PM

That is not refreshing itself. Your phone has limited RAM (not storage), and iOS manages it be removing app code and data segments of suspended apps from RAM when space is needed by other apps that you have launched. If an app has been removed when you next launch it any transient data is lost, and the app has to start over. Apps SHOULD save their transient data when you exit them (they receive a “signal” that warns them to do this) but not all apps “care” about transient data and don’t do this. So the next time you launch them they must start over. If you intentionally kill apps you can make this problem worse, because killing an app does not give them a chance to save status. Likewise if you force-restart your phone, rather than shutting it down to restart it.

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Feb 9, 2020 5:31 PM in response to lexus81

That is not refreshing itself. Your phone has limited RAM (not storage), and iOS manages it be removing app code and data segments of suspended apps from RAM when space is needed by other apps that you have launched. If an app has been removed when you next launch it any transient data is lost, and the app has to start over. Apps SHOULD save their transient data when you exit them (they receive a “signal” that warns them to do this) but not all apps “care” about transient data and don’t do this. So the next time you launch them they must start over. If you intentionally kill apps you can make this problem worse, because killing an app does not give them a chance to save status. Likewise if you force-restart your phone, rather than shutting it down to restart it.

Feb 11, 2020 12:46 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

I’m sorry but that makes no sense. My phone is an XR with 3gb of ram and has 64gb of rom and only using 20. Sounds like you’re saying never close out (killing) of an app because it makes the phone worse. I’m a computer person and not very phone savvy but I would assume that having a bunch of apps playing in the background would over load a computer. I never have more than 2 open. I only don’t force restart my phone either. You could easily speak like a normal person and be helpful but you sound pompous. Especially when on a brand new phone with no data it still does it so 🤷🏽‍♀️

Feb 11, 2020 1:04 PM in response to lexus81

Yes, that’s exactly what I am saying. Never close apps unless they are misbehaving. I’m not making this up. What you are missing is the fact that none of the apps that are listed in the quick launch window are running. All that list saves is the last run status of the apps. They are all suspended, and most aren’t even in RAM except for status stubs. And 3 GB of RAM isn’t that much when iOS is using half of it. My quick launch window currently shows 131 apps. The oldest one there I last used 3 months ago.


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Feb 9, 2020 4:23 PM in response to lexus81

No, it couldn’t be Apple. When you say you turned off app refresh, do you mean in Settings/General/Background App Refresh? That will stop apps from starting on their own to do processing, but it does not block apps from responding to Notifications. Apps that have Notifications enabled will run to process the notification, which can involve retrieving new data associated with the notification.

Feb 9, 2020 5:08 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

Yes background app refresh. So let’s say I’m searching something on amazon. I answer a text message and get back to the amazon screen and it has now restarted to the beginning. Same thing with Facebook or any other app I have. It’s as if I closed the app and came back but it was just running in the background and refreshed itself

Turned off app refresh, apps still refresh

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