Noise on 16-inch Macbook pro speaker when I’m using logic pro x


Noise on 16’ Macbook speaker 


I’m using MacBook pro 16 , 2019.

From the first time i’m using logic pro X on my Mac, there is odd noise everytime i play music. This noise appears randomly and disappears without any intervention.

Once this problem occurs, i can hear the noise on system sound , youtube and other apps in addition to logic pro x

If i use external audio device like earphone, this noise disappears right away


Here is the link of the video the odd noise is recorded in


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cUetWeq0JNrnYEcienbrn7sdK-byf_Xm/view?usp=drivesdk


Is there any MacBook user who has same problem?

What is the solution of this problem?

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Mar 4, 2020 1:04 AM

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Posted on Mar 10, 2021 10:13 PM

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What worked for me - How to determine if its a bad plugin

Before I get into the instructions it is important to think about when you started experiencing the audio issue and if you have recently installed any new audio devices, virtual instruments, or anything with plugins. This will help you narrow down the issue and this is how I quickly found the plugin causing the issue even though I had ones that failed validation they were not the ones that were the issue, but they could have been. It was a newer plugin that was "successfully validated" from the moment I went into the Plug-Ins Manager. It is important to note Apple's Logic Pro support told me that a Plugin in Logic Pro can cause systemwide issues even if it is disabled.


  • Close All Apps
  • Open a Finder window.
  • Select Go from the menu bar at the top of the screen.
  • Hold down the Option key to reveal the Library folder option in the dropdown menu and click on it
  • Navigate to Audio\Plug-Ins\
  • Copy the Components folder to your desktop
  • Delete the Components folder in the \Library\Audio\Plugins directory
  • Launch Logic Pro and try to use one of the built in Apple sounds. The sound issue should be gone, providing it is go to the next step. If it is not gone then you will need to contact Apple Support.
  • Close Logic Pro and keep it closed until instructed to reopen it
  • Make a Folder on the Desktop named "Troubleshooting Plugins" and continue with one of the three sets of instructions in bold depending on what applies to your situation


If you have recently installed a new plug in, audio device, etc then do the following:

  • Copy the Components folder back to the Plugins directory.
  • Start with the most recent plug in you have installed and remove it from the Components folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" folder on your desktop. In my case I had just installed ROLI Studio which was "successfully validated"
  • Launch Logic Pro
  • Test the audio again using any of the sounds you have in Logic, if there are no sound issues and the problem has been resolved then you will need to contact that Plugins manufacturer for an updated plugin.


If you have NOT recently installed a new plug in, audio device, etc BUT you have plugins listed as "crashed validation" then do the following:

  • Copy the Components folder back to the Plugins directory.
  • In the Components folder in the Plug-Ins directory look for the plugins that were listed as "Crashed Validation" and remove only one of them from the Components folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" folder on your desktop.
  • Launch Logic Pro
  • Test the audio again using any of the sounds you have in Logic, if there are no sound issues and the problem has been resolved then you will need to contact that Plugins manufacturer for an updated plugin.
  • If the issue has not been resolved Close Logic, select the next Plugin that "Crashed Validation" in the list of plugins in the Components folder and remove it from that folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" folder then relaunch Logic Pro. Keep repeating this process until you have removed each one of the plugins that "Crashed Validation" if it is still not working continue on with the next set of instructions


If you have NOT recently installed a new plug in, audio device, etc and you have NONE that say "crashed validation" or you have already eliminated all of those from the Components folder then do the following:

  • Go into the Components folder in the \Library\Audio\Plugin\Components folder and sort the files by date created or date modified (if you want to troubleshoot chronologically in order from most recent installed to oldest installed plugin. Otherwise you can sort by name
  • Start with the first one in the list of files in the Components folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" Folder
  • Launch Logic Pro
  • Test the audio again using any of the sounds you have in Logic, if there are no sound issues and the problem has been resolved then you will need to contact that Plugins manufacturer for an updated plugin. If the problem persists continue removing plugins one by one from the Components folder and then launching and testing in Logic Pro. Eventually you will find after removing a particular plugin that the issue stops. Once the issue stops you have successfully identified the troublesome plugin and will need to contact the maker of the plugin. You can then restore the other plugins from the Troubleshooting Plugins folder to the Components folder. If you find the problem reappears then you may have more than one plugin causing issues you can then go back through the same steps as outlined above to repeat the process of finding a bad plugin.



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Jul 6, 2020 2:08 PM in response to agentsjrc

As Apple claims my suggestion that a future software update might not fix the problem was "speculative", here is what the Apple tech himself told me sometime ago after the last update failed to fix the problem: that the problem is hardware-based.


Case 101093992685


  • Thu 11 Jun at 15:10
  • Case Number: 101093992685

  • Stephen,

  • the link has expired. 

  • This issue is a hardware Based issue. 

  • Please call back into the UK support and talk to a hardware specialist they will seer the case. we need you to go there because it is system wide and because you are in the united Kingdom., system issues are taken care of with different procedures. 

  • Thank you, 
  • Elijah
  • On May 31, 2020, at 16:35 Stephen Cass wrote:


Many thanks, Elijah. I've sent more feedback in as the noise actually seems to have got worse today. The video upload link has expired, but I've asked if they can send me a new one, so I can send a video of what's going on. Thanks again.

All the best,

Stephen


Mar 4, 2020 2:36 AM in response to 예찬144

That's the noise, that should have been fixed with an update to 10.15.2. or 10.15.3. That was not a T2 issue, it was a software problem. Another issue was a strange aliasing noise / tone, if you play back a sweep from 20Hz to 20 kHz. Beyond 10 kHz, there was a tone, that swept down, like the system was running at 22.05 kHz sample rate.


Best,


DaCaptain

Jun 16, 2020 10:54 PM in response to JC Franklin

Well, that seems a blessedly simple solution. Just got my new 16" MacBook Pro on Thursday and have been disheartened by that weird thumping in Logic. It took me just one try to change the MacBook Speakers output to 48,000. Hoping it works. I'll be back if it doesn't.


I did have an immediate concern that this would mean that all my audio work in Logic Pro would be produced at a 48,000 sample rate but I see the standard 44,100 is still the default.


While I know you can't do serious work with the onboard speakers, I am still really impressed how good they sound. For casual in-a-pinch situations away from a studio, they sound quite good. Totally beyond the expectations for a laptop.

Jun 30, 2020 4:40 AM in response to MAXBOOX

Welcome to the club, and sorry to hear it. We all feel your pain as we’re all going through it. Despite all the smoke and mirrors from Apple, there is clearly NO software fix to this (“Just wait, kids...10.15.712 is definitely going to do it!”). It’s a “return it to the shop and get the offending T2 chip modified” solution, but Apple seems reluctant to say so, perhaps out of fear of a class-action suit. The “48kHz swap” is a band-aid, not a solution.

Oct 25, 2020 7:44 AM in response to bigtuna242

Hi all, tried posting regarding my potential "class"-y solution to this, but of course it got deleted...so, I, too, am piping in to say that Big Sur is not a fix. Nor will ANY software fix be.


As a senior engineer told me many months ago, this is a hardware issue, and it was reported up the chain. You can see how well that worked. Until Apple recalls these machines to fix the hardware issue (likely the security chip, according to him) and/or offers refunds/rebates, this issue will not go away.


Apple, stop censoring your customers and start respecting them-- they *want* you to succeed (since 1984 with the Mac, and 1980 with the Apple II)! What would Steve have done?

Nov 9, 2020 1:15 PM in response to venkatesh249

Yup. It’s definitely has to be a software issue and not hardware from my experience. Although not a cracking sound like the hardware speakers on my 16”, I paired my AirPod Pros and all of a sudden the sound would randomly degrade to a gramophone level quality (although I never technically heard a gramophone). The only thing that fixes it is to restart the laptop.

Feb 2, 2021 2:25 PM in response to Cyrano01

I had(ve) the same issue. Tried everything and so far the best solution was to exactly do what you mentioned but I would also suggest if you didn’t do it already is to also change that setting in the actual software that you’re using, for me logic X . I run all my sessions in 48,000 and it seems to have improved the problem but it’s still not totally fixed. Big big disappointment with my Mac, and further more with the kind of responses and customer Care response I have received from Apple is really quite disappointing and unacceptable.

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