Noise on 16-inch Macbook pro speaker when I’m using logic pro x


Noise on 16’ Macbook speaker 


I’m using MacBook pro 16 , 2019.

From the first time i’m using logic pro X on my Mac, there is odd noise everytime i play music. This noise appears randomly and disappears without any intervention.

Once this problem occurs, i can hear the noise on system sound , youtube and other apps in addition to logic pro x

If i use external audio device like earphone, this noise disappears right away


Here is the link of the video the odd noise is recorded in


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cUetWeq0JNrnYEcienbrn7sdK-byf_Xm/view?usp=drivesdk


Is there any MacBook user who has same problem?

What is the solution of this problem?

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Mar 4, 2020 1:04 AM

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Posted on Mar 10, 2021 10:13 PM

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What worked for me - How to determine if its a bad plugin

Before I get into the instructions it is important to think about when you started experiencing the audio issue and if you have recently installed any new audio devices, virtual instruments, or anything with plugins. This will help you narrow down the issue and this is how I quickly found the plugin causing the issue even though I had ones that failed validation they were not the ones that were the issue, but they could have been. It was a newer plugin that was "successfully validated" from the moment I went into the Plug-Ins Manager. It is important to note Apple's Logic Pro support told me that a Plugin in Logic Pro can cause systemwide issues even if it is disabled.


  • Close All Apps
  • Open a Finder window.
  • Select Go from the menu bar at the top of the screen.
  • Hold down the Option key to reveal the Library folder option in the dropdown menu and click on it
  • Navigate to Audio\Plug-Ins\
  • Copy the Components folder to your desktop
  • Delete the Components folder in the \Library\Audio\Plugins directory
  • Launch Logic Pro and try to use one of the built in Apple sounds. The sound issue should be gone, providing it is go to the next step. If it is not gone then you will need to contact Apple Support.
  • Close Logic Pro and keep it closed until instructed to reopen it
  • Make a Folder on the Desktop named "Troubleshooting Plugins" and continue with one of the three sets of instructions in bold depending on what applies to your situation


If you have recently installed a new plug in, audio device, etc then do the following:

  • Copy the Components folder back to the Plugins directory.
  • Start with the most recent plug in you have installed and remove it from the Components folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" folder on your desktop. In my case I had just installed ROLI Studio which was "successfully validated"
  • Launch Logic Pro
  • Test the audio again using any of the sounds you have in Logic, if there are no sound issues and the problem has been resolved then you will need to contact that Plugins manufacturer for an updated plugin.


If you have NOT recently installed a new plug in, audio device, etc BUT you have plugins listed as "crashed validation" then do the following:

  • Copy the Components folder back to the Plugins directory.
  • In the Components folder in the Plug-Ins directory look for the plugins that were listed as "Crashed Validation" and remove only one of them from the Components folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" folder on your desktop.
  • Launch Logic Pro
  • Test the audio again using any of the sounds you have in Logic, if there are no sound issues and the problem has been resolved then you will need to contact that Plugins manufacturer for an updated plugin.
  • If the issue has not been resolved Close Logic, select the next Plugin that "Crashed Validation" in the list of plugins in the Components folder and remove it from that folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" folder then relaunch Logic Pro. Keep repeating this process until you have removed each one of the plugins that "Crashed Validation" if it is still not working continue on with the next set of instructions


If you have NOT recently installed a new plug in, audio device, etc and you have NONE that say "crashed validation" or you have already eliminated all of those from the Components folder then do the following:

  • Go into the Components folder in the \Library\Audio\Plugin\Components folder and sort the files by date created or date modified (if you want to troubleshoot chronologically in order from most recent installed to oldest installed plugin. Otherwise you can sort by name
  • Start with the first one in the list of files in the Components folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" Folder
  • Launch Logic Pro
  • Test the audio again using any of the sounds you have in Logic, if there are no sound issues and the problem has been resolved then you will need to contact that Plugins manufacturer for an updated plugin. If the problem persists continue removing plugins one by one from the Components folder and then launching and testing in Logic Pro. Eventually you will find after removing a particular plugin that the issue stops. Once the issue stops you have successfully identified the troublesome plugin and will need to contact the maker of the plugin. You can then restore the other plugins from the Troubleshooting Plugins folder to the Components folder. If you find the problem reappears then you may have more than one plugin causing issues you can then go back through the same steps as outlined above to repeat the process of finding a bad plugin.



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Jun 30, 2020 2:31 PM in response to agentsjrc

My post can be read two ways, i was actually defending the use of the built-in speaker system, if you get used to mixing on them and use comparison tests you should be ok. They are not accurate out of the box as they likely use an electronic/eq preamp like the Bose systems. The problem could be in the preamp depending on where its located in the signal chain and whether it's hardware or software. This should not be happening in a top of the line system running the same company's pro DAW. The point I would stress to Apple is a portable system with great sound and not having to hang extra hardware on it.

Jul 6, 2020 1:31 PM in response to JC Franklin

It also sounds like a galloping horse to me @JC Franklin. And I also bought this machining mid May 2020 for audio production work. After weeks of frustrating responses from support amidst the COVID-19 shutdown and sending my machine in to get fixed and having them return it unchanged I was told today that the software fix is coming...who knows when. I will try adjusting the sampling rate as you suggest and hope it solves it. Have you had any recurring problems or did it fix it for good?

Jul 6, 2020 1:50 PM in response to jrmy

I just tried to reply to your email, stating that the 48kHz doesn't work for long, and that in my case it lasted until I had a client meeting where I had to play a mix on this expensive MBP...and got made to look like a fool.


I've removed other points that Apple said were "speculative"-- presumably about the forever-promised "software fix coming shortly". My above comment, however, is flat out FACT :-(

Jul 6, 2020 3:06 PM in response to agentsjrc

Thank you for the information, agentsjrc. I think it's overdue that Apple officially comments on the problem and announces if there will be a software fix. It's been more than half a year since the problem is known. As long as Apple does not do so, they themselves are responsible for any speculation. In view of the past time in which no software fix has been released, my own assumption is that it is a hardware problem that Apple does not want to admit in order not to jeopardize its sales.


As I had already written here, I returned the first MacBook Pro 16 I bought for this reason, but the second had the same problem (I have kept it because audio applications are not crucial for my work). Therefore I'm assuming that this is not an isolated problem and that many MacBook Pros 16″ are affected. In case this thread should be closed, I saved it.

Jul 23, 2020 7:54 AM in response to 예찬144

Hi everyone.


Just thought I’d share my current situation with this issue. I noticed this galloping echo sound on the evening when my new Mac arrived and immediately phoned for a replacement model. I was shocked to find the issue was prominent again on my new machine which arrived yesterday. I didn’t even install anything, just opened GarageBand straight out of the box. I’ve now got two state of the art MacBook Pro’s in my possession with a horrendous defect.


It’s hard to believe this somehow escaped them, for a device which is sold with its new improved speaker quality being a huge selling point!


After phoning just about every person working for Apple I’ve managed to get to this.. I recreated the issue over the phone and the senior tech advisor acknowledged its existence. However, she said that there’s no record of this issue on their side. I find this bizarre as a few of you have mentioned that he have acknowledged an issue. She has forwarded the video evidence I sent to Apple engineers and they’re getting back to me tomorrow.


I have been offered a refund or a replacement, none of which I want. My work and life is on these machines, and for the price we pay we expect them to work.


I intend to keep the device, as I need it, and enquired on the phone saying that if the issue isn’t fixed after 12 months, I want a full refund or new replacement model (when the new Mac’s come out). The advisor said that if I can reproduce the issue, have evidence of it being there the day I bought it as well as all being logged on my case number, I would be covered under the warranty and consumer law. This was all on the phone, I’m going to ask for clarification and a statement in writing when they next call me. (I’ll send updates about this in here as I think it’d help you all and put your minds at ease)


Its good (well, bad) to see so many others with the issue. Hopefully if I put this thread under the advisors nose they can escalate it. For a device that is sold as being the best audio production machine on planet Earth, it’s pretty **** poor.

Sep 17, 2020 7:57 AM in response to agentsjrc

Yeah! I'm also from a drums and percussions background.


I have some experience with the retail sector. I can assure you that local retailers know how to voice their concerns in ways that consumers can't. For them, a return/exchange is something back in their inventory and they really don't like that.


I think it depends on what country you live in. Where I live, we have powerful consumer protection regulations.


As this being resolved, I have mixed feelings about it. I can only speculate it is a balancing act for Apple. Ex: Deploying a fix without rippling effects vs dealing with the issue on a case by case basis...


My understanding of the issue is it is tricky. Some kind of interaction between BridgeOS and Core Audio handling in the T2 chip.


Note: I have no internal knowledge about Apple. Just sharing what I gathered so far.


WD

Oct 16, 2020 6:54 AM in response to andrew1996_

I think the problem is Catalina as well... I heard so many issues with people working in music, gear no longer compatible , audio interfaces inputs become super hot for some unknown reason, this noise that we have all on our machines, it also randomly appears when in YouTube as well , that's a new thing for me as well... And the overheating of the computer, all of this makes me really think very seriously that I'll shift all my system to Microsoft. And I hear a lot of professional people working in the music industry who are doing the same


Feb 2, 2021 5:42 PM in response to christophe227

Ugh--it's not fixed yet? It's really a problem! I've done several recordings on GarageBand that are ruined because of the quiet, rhythmic crunching sound. Now I've got Logic X, and the same thing happened, and when I called Apple the guy had no idea how to troubleshoot it. I'm glad for this discussion! I'll definitely check the sample rate in Logic...Thanks!

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