Noise on 16-inch Macbook pro speaker when I’m using logic pro x


Noise on 16’ Macbook speaker 


I’m using MacBook pro 16 , 2019.

From the first time i’m using logic pro X on my Mac, there is odd noise everytime i play music. This noise appears randomly and disappears without any intervention.

Once this problem occurs, i can hear the noise on system sound , youtube and other apps in addition to logic pro x

If i use external audio device like earphone, this noise disappears right away


Here is the link of the video the odd noise is recorded in


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cUetWeq0JNrnYEcienbrn7sdK-byf_Xm/view?usp=drivesdk


Is there any MacBook user who has same problem?

What is the solution of this problem?

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Mar 4, 2020 1:04 AM

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Posted on Mar 10, 2021 10:13 PM

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What worked for me - How to determine if its a bad plugin

Before I get into the instructions it is important to think about when you started experiencing the audio issue and if you have recently installed any new audio devices, virtual instruments, or anything with plugins. This will help you narrow down the issue and this is how I quickly found the plugin causing the issue even though I had ones that failed validation they were not the ones that were the issue, but they could have been. It was a newer plugin that was "successfully validated" from the moment I went into the Plug-Ins Manager. It is important to note Apple's Logic Pro support told me that a Plugin in Logic Pro can cause systemwide issues even if it is disabled.


  • Close All Apps
  • Open a Finder window.
  • Select Go from the menu bar at the top of the screen.
  • Hold down the Option key to reveal the Library folder option in the dropdown menu and click on it
  • Navigate to Audio\Plug-Ins\
  • Copy the Components folder to your desktop
  • Delete the Components folder in the \Library\Audio\Plugins directory
  • Launch Logic Pro and try to use one of the built in Apple sounds. The sound issue should be gone, providing it is go to the next step. If it is not gone then you will need to contact Apple Support.
  • Close Logic Pro and keep it closed until instructed to reopen it
  • Make a Folder on the Desktop named "Troubleshooting Plugins" and continue with one of the three sets of instructions in bold depending on what applies to your situation


If you have recently installed a new plug in, audio device, etc then do the following:

  • Copy the Components folder back to the Plugins directory.
  • Start with the most recent plug in you have installed and remove it from the Components folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" folder on your desktop. In my case I had just installed ROLI Studio which was "successfully validated"
  • Launch Logic Pro
  • Test the audio again using any of the sounds you have in Logic, if there are no sound issues and the problem has been resolved then you will need to contact that Plugins manufacturer for an updated plugin.


If you have NOT recently installed a new plug in, audio device, etc BUT you have plugins listed as "crashed validation" then do the following:

  • Copy the Components folder back to the Plugins directory.
  • In the Components folder in the Plug-Ins directory look for the plugins that were listed as "Crashed Validation" and remove only one of them from the Components folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" folder on your desktop.
  • Launch Logic Pro
  • Test the audio again using any of the sounds you have in Logic, if there are no sound issues and the problem has been resolved then you will need to contact that Plugins manufacturer for an updated plugin.
  • If the issue has not been resolved Close Logic, select the next Plugin that "Crashed Validation" in the list of plugins in the Components folder and remove it from that folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" folder then relaunch Logic Pro. Keep repeating this process until you have removed each one of the plugins that "Crashed Validation" if it is still not working continue on with the next set of instructions


If you have NOT recently installed a new plug in, audio device, etc and you have NONE that say "crashed validation" or you have already eliminated all of those from the Components folder then do the following:

  • Go into the Components folder in the \Library\Audio\Plugin\Components folder and sort the files by date created or date modified (if you want to troubleshoot chronologically in order from most recent installed to oldest installed plugin. Otherwise you can sort by name
  • Start with the first one in the list of files in the Components folder and place it in the "Troubleshooting Plugins" Folder
  • Launch Logic Pro
  • Test the audio again using any of the sounds you have in Logic, if there are no sound issues and the problem has been resolved then you will need to contact that Plugins manufacturer for an updated plugin. If the problem persists continue removing plugins one by one from the Components folder and then launching and testing in Logic Pro. Eventually you will find after removing a particular plugin that the issue stops. Once the issue stops you have successfully identified the troublesome plugin and will need to contact the maker of the plugin. You can then restore the other plugins from the Troubleshooting Plugins folder to the Components folder. If you find the problem reappears then you may have more than one plugin causing issues you can then go back through the same steps as outlined above to repeat the process of finding a bad plugin.



236 replies

Jun 9, 2020 8:20 PM in response to 예찬144

I have the same problem, so thankful for your post and video. I retuned my first MBP 16 which I had bought only 1 week ago due to this, however, the second one has the same issue, so I think this must be a widespread issue. I notice it less when I listen to music, but very much when making music. I think Apple should really feel ashamed and be honest to potential buyers: their new highly lauded speakers are useless if this problem persists. I hope it is just a software problem and they will fix it soon, otherwise a class action would be absolutely appropriate for this case.

Jun 12, 2020 2:38 PM in response to agentsjrc

Also, I did the "Bangalore Check"-- I talked about the Bay Area and Apple with him! I lived in SF for ten years and visited Apple in Cupertino a lot as I started a music software company, and we were talking to iTunes at the time (before the first iPod!). He's cool. And I also believe very strongly that he's right...which is a shame really, as I'd love for there to be a magic software bullet for this serious problem.

Jun 30, 2020 5:10 AM in response to LChr32

In Australia we have the ACCC. This is a law protecting consumers, ensuring they get what they pay for, you report a business that may be doing the wrong thing under the Competition and Consumer Act 2010. Advertising a computer system to produce music with the most advanced speakers ever put in a laptop , is false advertising and Apple is open to be prosecuted under the Competition and consumer Act 2010. Feel free visit the link and report your consumer issue.

https://www.accc.gov.au/contact-us/contact-the-accc/report-a-consumer-issue


Jun 30, 2020 10:26 AM in response to MAXBOOX

I don't know what you're all complaining about-- according to the Apple website, some famous guy with a silly haircut produced some amazing album or other with this very same MacBook Pro running Logic Pro X! ;-)


Of course, I guess if you're a famous producer you won't be needing those speakers. For the rest of us working musicians who blew their entire Lockdown-annihilated earnings to buy this much-hyped "ultimate audio production" tool in the hope of picking up more recording/mixing/composing work, we're stiffed. I'm still waiting for Apple to fess up and admit there is no software fix for this, and to start a product recall and/or compensation. But I'm not optimistic...


BTW, anyone want to let Super Famous "Oak Felder" know this thing ain't all that?

Jun 30, 2020 11:27 AM in response to agentsjrc

I‘m pretty sure Oak Felder does use an external interface, so he doesn‘t see this problem. And I‘m sure he heard of that problem and might be puzzled, why people use built-in speakers anyway.

I acknowledge, that the situation with the built-in speakers poses a real pain, however, they are not critical listening devices. A lot of dynamic processing and EQing is applied to make them sound like this, but it renders them useless to judge a compressor setting, etc.


Best,


DaCaptain

Jun 30, 2020 11:56 AM in response to 예찬144

a 2500 euros computer whose one of main features are speaker, especially since it is dedicated to music production, cannot have this problem and shows this horrible 'crackling' sound even when seeing a movie or listen music. It is frustrating and makes the music content media enjoying impossible. they should for free the mac or at least fix this, but they same to do not care at all. I spoke with assistance by phone and I passed to the level '2' but they were not able to give any solution..

search on youtube for the a video whose name is equal to question title. you will find an example look here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_d4y_C2Dyk

Jun 30, 2020 12:09 PM in response to DaCaptain

Yeah, fair enough I suppose. Who needs good speakers when you're working in audio?


The point is that Apple is paying and/or sponsoring known artists like Mr. Felder to promote a product to musicians who, dare I say it, are spending a far greater percentage of their already reduced incomes on what is supposed to be a premium production and composing tool. Only problem is, if it doesn't do what it says on the tin, it isn't. Apple and their featured artist Mr. Felder are promoting a product that doesn't work as advertised. At the least, that's uncool; at the most, it's false advertising.


I'm guessing Mr. Felder might be upset having his name associated with something that for many months now has been a disappointment to so many working musicians who bought into the hype. But that's for him to decide, and to take up with Apple. My guess is that this is rapidly heading for a class-action lawsuit anyway as the "You don't really need those speakers anyway if you're a true pro" argument is not just patronizing but unhelpful in getting Apple to sort the problem out. Thanks for your input though-- if you know Mr. Felder, he'd be a great champion for those of us urgently seeking a fix to this problem.

Jun 30, 2020 12:27 PM in response to DaCaptain

In all fairness to the people having this problem, if you use comparisons on different systems you can learn to mix well using most any speaker setup. Talent pretty much overrules most obstacles. Many years ago there was a young man who who did a series of pop originals in Cubase with the stock plugins. Sang all the parts, played and programmed all the instruments, stuff sounded unbelievable over my studio monitors, great in my car, fantastic over a boombox. He mixed with a yamaha stereo amp and Realistic 3-way speakers. We're the limit, not the gear.

Jun 30, 2020 1:19 PM in response to Pancenter

Couldn't agree more. I've been using tape since 1975 and DAWs since the days of Sound Designer. Anyone thinking this issue is going to destroy their talent is mistaken. But the point of this thread is that Apple is selling a product that doesn't (as they say in the UK) do what it says on the tin, and they need to sort that out soon or make it up somehow to those of us who bought the blindingly expensive tin.


Unfortunately, the call for a solution is in danger of getting muffled by the "Well, if you're good at what you do, you shouldn't be using laptop speakers anyway" argument. I agree with Pancenter that if you're good at what you do, you'll be like the guy with the Radio Shack speakers (walnut veneer :-)?. But if Apple's good at what it does, it will fix this problem or compensate those of us who bought the product.

Jun 30, 2020 2:12 PM in response to agentsjrc

I find crazy people saying ok don't bother too much about built-in speaker, if you are pro music producer you should be using external speaker.. Apple is selling 2500 euros and more laptop with a very frustrating and annoying problem that prevent you to enjoy any kind of musical content. I am not an expert on music composition but I like to seat in my room and make some tracks while listening the music from my laptop. Why should I be forced to carry with me or buy other stuff? Furthermore the speaker are supposes to e one of the best part of the mac compared to others. If I was aware of this problem I would not have bought it at all. I cannot listen to music on youtube or whatever, nor see a film without hearing this galloping/crackling noise coming out from the speakers. It is just insane that they do not provide the customers any solution of pay it back. It is a fraud.

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