Ever since upgrading to Catalina, I have had NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS! It has wreaked havoc on every aspect of my computer. I have even seriously think having Apple help me navigate backward to Mojave. Let Apple fix Catalina before I return to it.

Ever since upgrading to Catalina, I have had NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS! It has wreaked havoc on every aspect of my computer. I have even seriously considered having Apple help me navigate backward to Mojave. Let Apple fix Catalina before I return to it.

When will Catalina be fixed? Why does the consumer need to be the "guinea pig" in discovering the issues? Why can't the computer engineers test the program more thoroughly before releasing it to the general public?

Posted on Mar 4, 2020 11:34 AM

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Mar 13, 2020 5:38 PM in response to charlenefromwinchester

The top screenshot indicates that you're fine as far as memory is concerned.


The lower screenshot is just showing the read (blue) and write (red) access to the hard drive. It will change with the use of the computer, i.e. create new or copy files increases writes. Searching for and loading apps or large files into an app will increate reads.


The important one is the memory pressure. If it begins to get into the red and stays there you're having memory problems.


Mar 13, 2020 10:43 PM in response to charlenefromwinchester

charlenefromwinchester wrote:

Should I do anything about Launch Daemons or Launch Agents?


No, not those in your report anyway. Although macOS doesn't include any by default, the ones on your Mac are for Adobe and Google—two non-Apple products that communicate with those companies for their own needs. If you were to remove them they wouldn't work properly or at all, so leave them alone.


The other is for an HP printer (which you may or may not still be using) which isn't strictly necessary for the printer's basic functions. One of those functions probably monitors the printer's ink or toner level so HP can nag you to purchase more overpriced ink when it becomes low.


Ideally, you should have at least a passing familiarity with the contents of those two folders. Nothing gets deposited in them without your consent, which takes the form of an installer asking for your password, and a solicitation for those credentials should never come as a surprise.


If you are not sure what a particular file is doing in your Mac's Launch Agents or Launch Daemons folders, investigate. Asking on this site is always a good idea.


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Memory "Pressure" represents the relative compression factor of your Mac's memory. In an ideal world Macs would have an infinite amount, which is obviously impossible, so recent macOS versions maximize that limited system resource by actively compressing its contents similar to the way files are compressed to occupy less space. It does it in real time using a very efficient (and proprietary) algorithm.


macOS is designed to use as much physically installed RAM as it can since that results in the fastest possible performance. When it needs more than it has, it begins to compress it. When it compresses all it can, it begins to move memory out of RAM and on to mass storage, which traditionally meant its hard disk drive. That results in rather horrible performance degradation, but the alternative would be for your Mac to run out of memory and tell you it can't launch a program or execute some function. That's actually what happened in the bad old days decades ago—run out of memory, and a program would either grind to an inelegant halt or just crash. That was considered normal.


Macs that incorporate solid state storage (flash memory or solid state drive) in lieu of a traditional spinning hard disk go a long way toward minimizing that performance degradation, but it still becomes noticeable even on those models.


The bottom line is that your Mac is coping perfectly well within its 8 GB memory. It has plenty left over.


The second image shows hard disk data being read or written. Blue represents data being written to disk, and red are data read from it. Or the other way round—I forget which is which 🙂


All those parameters (memory, disk, network activity, energy...) taken as a whole comprise an overall impression of what your Mac is doing under its glass and aluminum skin. So if you're ever curious about why your Mac is slow (for example) the first place to look should be Activity Monitor to investigate what's making it so busy. Most often it's a dynamic picture that can be correlated to what you're doing with your Mac. EtreCheck does its best to take a snapshot of what's happening and then shows you that picture, whereas Activity Monitor is more like watching a movie.


Of interest to me: Next to each of the names of this Apple community is a Level number and points. What do they mean?


Here you go: Levels and Perks


Mar 14, 2020 9:03 AM in response to charlenefromwinchester

Apple computers are not entirely immune from viruses and malware.


Actually it is, if you accept the definition of the word "immune" to describe a high degree of resistance to viruses. In that context macOS is in fact immune from "computer viruses", a statement supported by the fact that there has never been one that has affected macOS. Not a single one in the history of macOS, which includes Apple's previous name OS X. There has never been a macOS virus, and given Apple's recent security elements incorporated in macOS, I am confident that there will never be a macOS virus.


The reason you had to temper your description with the adverb "entirely" is that while macOS is in fact immune from viruses, it's not invulnerable. The subtle difference is that every now and then, on a slow news day (which today isn't), you will run across a breathless headline in some tech blog proclaiming "First Mac Virus Discovered!!!" with a subheading "Apple refuses to comment" or whatever. Then, buried somewhere in the ninth or tenth paragraph anyone still paying attention will read that the subject virus was directly injected into a compromised Mac through its Thunderbolt port in the same way you'd inject a frightened lab rat with a known pathogen. Physical access to a deliberately compromised Mac makes a variety of nasty exploits possible, and physical inaccessibility is only the first layer of what needs to be an overall, multifaceted security strategy. Delegating that security to a non-Apple "anti-virus" product is the height of irresponsibility.


Apple is the sole source for Macs and the operating systems they run. As the most famously secretive organization in the world, no one knows more about them than they do. Anyone that claims otherwise ought to be regarded with extreme suspicion, if not outright derision. They are all opportunists with one and only one goal: to take your money, whether their products are "free" or not.


It's been twenty years since macOS's inception with the very first OS X Public Beta. Even Microsoft Windows, once the gold standard playground for viruses, has effectively rendered them obsolete with improvements in their PC target systems. Meanwhile "anti-virus" peddlers continue to beat their heads against a wall in a desperate attempt to remain relevant in a post-"computer virus" era. After decades of continual improvements, do you really think anything's going to change?


Words mean things. If you want to discuss malware, that's a different subject. Malware is a broad category of junk, and "junk" is anything that does not convey or support your ability to use your Mac for whatever you need it to do—whether that's productivity or communication or entertainment or information or organization or other beneficial purposes that only you can know.


There is plenty of Mac malware and there always has been. The overwhelming majority of that malware is packaged and distributed in the form of "anti-virus" products. They are junk.


Without having (what I would call) a defined anti-virus, how does one identify and - more importantly - eliminate any of the damaging intruders?


You don't install them. You are the owner and operator of your Mac and only you can decide what you want to put on it.


Mac malware is not the product of spontaneous generation. It doesn't arise out of nowhere. It doesn't insert itself as a mere consequence of receiving an email or message. The Mac malware that has become so popular in recent years requires and depends upon your active participation and consent. It typically leverages a common human desire to want something "for free" in exchange for nothing more than a simple click. You can avoid a lot of misery with the simple concept think before you click. The entirety of Effective defenses against malware and other threats can be distilled into those four simple words.


It's also human to make mistakes. Adware distributors derive clickthrough revenue (💰) by inundating a Mac with advertising and directing search queries to sites specifically tailored to deliver it. If that's not bad enough, equally opportunistic scam artists sell products (💰) to eradicate the adware. Follow the money—it's as simple as that. If you should ever succumb to one of those scams, undoing the damage is easy enough, but no one should make such a mistake more than once.


Should that happen to you, removing adware is simple and does not require downloading or installing any product. On the other hand the eradication of "anti-virus" products and ridding a Mac of their effects is often cumbersome. "Webroot" happens to be one of the worst. In fact I tried and failed to uninstall it on one of my Macs, but eventually gave up and restored a Time Machine backup. That's how bad the "junk" can be—worse than the malware it claims to protect against.

Mar 14, 2020 11:06 AM in response to John Galt

Wow! A very informative response. Although I am already familiar with some of it, some other parts of your response have information I have to sort through. Thank you!

Follow-up Questions:

  1. How do I guard my computer against adware?
  2. How often should I run EtreCheck? Would EtreCheck identify malware?
  3. Are not certain Sites dangerous in and of themselves, such that merely by visiting the Site, the harm is already inflicted? An Apple computer cannot warn a user against a potential threatening Site.
  4. Has any Apple fallen victim to Ransom Ware? Is ransom ware also "injected" with a click?

Mar 14, 2020 11:20 AM in response to charlenefromwinchester

Every bit of John's remarks were accurate.


The major mistake users make - and that includes many so-called security experts - is using the word virus as a catch-all term. It isn't, and never has been. You yourself made the very common error of thinking malware is some sort of separate threat. You said:


viruses and malware


There is literally no difference between these. A virus is malware. Malware is short for malicious software. All of it falls under three basic headings.


Virus

Worm

Trojan


Continue in the extended text:


Mar 14, 2020 12:42 PM in response to charlenefromwinchester

How do I guard my computer against adware?

Simply, by not installing it. Basically, it takes you to download and install this, so don't install anything that's not from a trusted source - the App Store, or the website of a major software producer.


How often should I run EtreCheck? Would EtreCheck identify malware?

There is no need to do this routinely. There is no need to assume you might have malware if you se common sense in what you download.


Are not certain Sites dangerous in and of themselves, such that merely by visiting the Site, the harm is already inflicted? An Apple computer cannot warn a user against a potential threatening Site.


No, and yes, your computer will warn you if you try and visit a known bad site.


Has any Apple fallen victim to Ransom Ware? Is ransom ware also "injected" with a click?


Again like any malware or adware, ransom ware requires you to install it. It might be bundled with something else, so that's why you stick to trusted sources for downloading.

Mar 14, 2020 10:53 PM in response to John Galt

Here's the webpage that appears next:




That's it. Hit Continue and poor Ralph Kramden's miserable life gets even worse.


As I wrote this is how scam artists all over the world enrich themselves. If you don't believe me, see for yourself over at this site's Apple ID forum. I used to participate in it but the demand for help far exceeded my ability to keep up.


Most phishing scams are rather pathetic and easily recognized, and that one is no exception for a number of reasons if you know what to look for. All the usual clues happen to be in that one, but what if you don't know what to look for? What if you never learned how to identify legitimate emails from the App Store or iTunes Store? How do you completely protect yourself? More "anti-virus" garbage? 🤣 Of course not.


The answer is simple: Apple's two-factor authentication for Apple ID effectively slams the door on anyone attempting to use your Apple ID credentials. I implore everyone to use it. It works.

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