Audio and Video Synching Problem with IMovie and the MAC OS (Catalina)

I have a digital 8 video camcorder (DCR-TRV730), and I am hooking it up to my MacBook Pro with the latest Mac OS (Catalina10.15.4), and I am having intermittent video and audio synching problems when converting from the Camcorder tapes to my MacBook Using IMovie. The audio is synched up fine in the beginning of one of my transfers and then it is not synched later on after a few minutes or so in the transferred video. It gets off by around 3-6 seconds. This same kind of issue happens in other videos I convert over as well, but not always in all of them.


In another forum, I saw someone mention that a lot of people have complained about similar issues with IMovie and Catalina, and it sounded like Apple has a list of potential things to try to eradicate the problem.


Please help! Thanks..


Ted

MacBook Pro 15", macOS 10.15

Posted on Apr 11, 2020 12:15 PM

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Posted on Apr 11, 2020 12:57 PM

Hi, Ted,


Sometimes if the video was recorded in Long Play rather than Standard it can cause sync problems. Also, the sample rate of the audio can affect the sync -- 44.1 (slower), 48 (faster).


Try duplicating your project and, working with the duplicate, split the clip in two places to make a segment where the audio is starting to drift out of sync. Then detach the audio and see if you can manually sync it by nudging or dragging the audio clip along the timeline. Also, you can try expanding out your timeline (slider next to Settings Button above the timeline to the right), then select the audio segment and do a Control-click to get a pop up menu where you can select Show Speed Editor. That will reveal a slider handle in the upper right hand corner of the clip that you can slide to the right to make the clip slower, or to the left to make the clip faster. Try syncing the segment that way.


A trick to get more precise syncing is to select the audio clip and, while holding down the Option key, tap on the comma key on your keyboard, the one with the < symbol on it. That will nudge the clip to the left one frame with each tap of the key. It only works with nudging left, not right, so you will first need to position the audio clip to the right before nudging left.


In case it is a formatting issue, you could also try using the free download, Handbrake, to re-encode the clip to H.264, Mp4/AAC, that Handbrake will do by default. See if the re-encoded clip is properly synced. You can get Handbrake here:


https://handbrake.fr/


If none of the above works, you might try an audio editing app, like Audacity, to shrink or stretch the audio clip to sync it, or to change the sample rate.


-- Rich

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Apr 11, 2020 12:57 PM in response to tedpratt

Hi, Ted,


Sometimes if the video was recorded in Long Play rather than Standard it can cause sync problems. Also, the sample rate of the audio can affect the sync -- 44.1 (slower), 48 (faster).


Try duplicating your project and, working with the duplicate, split the clip in two places to make a segment where the audio is starting to drift out of sync. Then detach the audio and see if you can manually sync it by nudging or dragging the audio clip along the timeline. Also, you can try expanding out your timeline (slider next to Settings Button above the timeline to the right), then select the audio segment and do a Control-click to get a pop up menu where you can select Show Speed Editor. That will reveal a slider handle in the upper right hand corner of the clip that you can slide to the right to make the clip slower, or to the left to make the clip faster. Try syncing the segment that way.


A trick to get more precise syncing is to select the audio clip and, while holding down the Option key, tap on the comma key on your keyboard, the one with the < symbol on it. That will nudge the clip to the left one frame with each tap of the key. It only works with nudging left, not right, so you will first need to position the audio clip to the right before nudging left.


In case it is a formatting issue, you could also try using the free download, Handbrake, to re-encode the clip to H.264, Mp4/AAC, that Handbrake will do by default. See if the re-encoded clip is properly synced. You can get Handbrake here:


https://handbrake.fr/


If none of the above works, you might try an audio editing app, like Audacity, to shrink or stretch the audio clip to sync it, or to change the sample rate.


-- Rich

Apr 13, 2020 10:04 AM in response to Rich839

Thanks, Rich. I did try Handbrake, but it seemed like just a video converter that wouldn't really solve the audio/video sync problem. Don't worry about that. I have a new solution, but before I tell you what it is, I thought I'd let you know I tried using Adobe Lightroom Classic to hook up to my recorder. Unfortunately, it didn't recognize that it was connected, so I gave up on that.


My new solution - I tried converting over the offending clip again, but in smaller pieces. Each piece didn't have a syncing problem, so I considered it a victory, even though I'll need to go back and try to fix a couple other videos similarly. Once again, I appreciate the tips and tricks, and I look forward to trying them all out. Can't believe audio clips can only be reattached by doing Edit/Undos. That doesn't seem to make sense because you would be undoing things you did to make the audio and video sync, no? Just a rhetorical question. I feel guilt about you spending anymore of your time on me! :-)


Thanks again!


Ted

Apr 13, 2020 10:47 AM in response to tedpratt

You are very welcome.


Converting with Handbrake also runs the audio through the re-encoding process, in case there is some issue with the original audio clip. If you try it, work with a duplicate movie so you preserve your original.


You might try putting your video clip into a newly created project and then sharing it out as an audio only file (an option from the share box). You will have format options available. Share it to AAC or aiff. Then import the new audio clip into iMovie. Mute the video that is already there, so it plays no sound. Then play the timeline with the new audio and see if it will sync up.


-- Rich

Apr 12, 2020 7:28 PM in response to tedpratt

I think we have reached the limit of what can be done on an electronic forum such as this one.


You might benefit from contacting Apple Support and speaking with one of the savvy techs there. They have the capability of remotely accessing your computer, that we cannot do here. Click on the Contact Support item in the upper right corner of this forum’s screen. Navigate to a place where you can give your phone number and support will call you back.


Good luck with this. I hope that the support folks can find the answer.


— Rich

Apr 11, 2020 1:59 PM in response to tedpratt

Sound issues have commonly been reported when importing from tape based cameras. It seems that the newer software doesn’t do it as well as the older versions, like iMovie 9 and the old iMovie 6. I’m not aware that Catalina has had particularly more events in that regard. The reports have arisen with all recent operating systems. However, you could use the search function of this forum to see if you can find any unusual correlation with Catalina.


— Rich



Apr 13, 2020 8:49 AM in response to tedpratt

You are welcome. Audio sync problems can be pesky, indeed. Did you try converting with the Handbrake app, as I mentioned in a previous post?


Once an audio clip has been detached from a video clip the only way to reattach it within iMovie is to do an Edit/Undo as many times as necessary. Any edits that you did after detaching the clip would also be undone. One way to reattach previously detached audio is to share out the video clip and audio clip from a newly created project for the purpose. That will merge them back together again in the shared out movie, that you can then import back into your original project.


Here are a few more tips about working with audio clips:


You can split audio clips (Modify/Split Clip) at different places and move the segments around as you need to. If you hold down the Option and Command keys you can click along the audio track to move the attachment point to the video above. You can also press-drag an audio clip downward to a lower audio well until the attachment handle pulls off of the video above. That will make the audio clip independent of the video clip above it.


-- Rich

Apr 11, 2020 1:41 PM in response to Rich839

Rich,


Thanks much for getting back to me so soon, and for spending the time to give me your detailed reply. I haven't worked with moving audio to match the video before, so your comments are going to really help me try to learn and hopefully successfully do what I need to do.


Regarding my comment in my original post about hearing that this may be an IMovie /Catalina known issue, have you heard that from anybody? As much as I look forward to trying out your suggestions and becoming more proficient with IMovie, if there is a general known issue that there may be a more permanent fix for, it would sure save time down the road when I have to deal with more videos. Also, is there a competing similar tool to IMovie that may not have this problem?


Thanks again for your time and tips. I really appreciate it, I'll let you know if I have success!


Ted

Apr 12, 2020 6:55 PM in response to Rich839

Thanks, Rich. I tried some of your suggestions, and I had limited success. I could split clips and detach the audio for the clip in question, and I could move and nudge the audio clip, but it might help part of the clip, but other parts were still out of synch, and I also had problems reattaching the audio. I found one tip that said a CTRL Z would reattach the audio, but that didn't seem to work. Even if you tell me how to reattach he audio, it seems that moving the audio takes some audio away from previous or latter clips, doesn't it? Can I take left over audio from one split clip and add it to another clip where it might be needed? I'm obviously not very knowledgable in this area, and I don't expect you to tutor me anymore, so I think I'm going to need to continue looking for a general fix to why this is occurring - if there is one.


Thanks much, Rich.


Ted

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