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Two Xboxes on an Airport Extreme network?

So I have two Xbox Ones on my network, with wired connections back to my 5th gen Airport Extreme (Time Capsule). I had run one Xbox One for a year with no detectable trouble, but after adding the second Xbox One, we noticed problems with running online Xbox Live connections at the same time including slow speeds, inability to connect to game servers, dropping off, voice chat failures, and even complete network crashing.


Since then, I've discovered that Apple routers don't play well even with one Xbox, and I was apparently lucky to have had good connection for as long as I did without configuring the Airport and the Xbox, due to the Xbox's preference for unPnp (unsupported by Apple) and NAT forwarding, etc etc. I've read a lot of confusing and contradictory info about how to optimize the settings for running a single Xbox on an Apple Airport Extreme network, usually through either putting the Xbox in a DMZ or through port forwarding, and I'm honestly not sure what configuration is best.


More importantly, I'm not sure what (is any?) is the best way to configure for TWO Xboxes to run Xbox Live connections simultaneously. Is it possible? If so... how? (Should I even mention I *also* have an old, seldom-turned-on Xbox 360 as well? No? probably not...)


If it matters, it's a cable (Midco) 150 Mbps connection to an Arris Surfboard SB6190 modem to the Time Capsule (A1470) to a Netgear S350 Gigabit switch out to the Xboxes via Cat 6 cables.



Posted on Apr 23, 2020 10:38 PM

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Posted on Apr 24, 2020 4:44 AM

NAT is a fundamental weakness of the old IPv4 system.


One solution can be using IPv6 if it is supported by your ISP. I really don't play games so setup on the xbox is something you would have to check.


Otherwise you are stuck.


More importantly, I'm not sure what (is any?) is the best way to configure for TWO Xboxes to run Xbox Live connections simultaneously.


Xbox must use UPNP to enable multiple xboxes.. it is not possible to use DMZ as only one device can be exposed.. and you cannot set fixed port mappings because xbox will not work that way.


Sorry.. but if gaming is important to you replace the TC with another router.


If it matters, it's a cable (Midco) 150 Mbps connection to an Arris Surfboard SB6190 modem to the Time Capsule (A1470) to a Netgear S350 Gigabit switch out to the Xboxes via Cat 6 cables.


You would put the new router in between the SB6190 and the TC. You can reconfigure the TC to bridge mode and leave it as is. But the Xboxes should plug directly to the new router or via the gigabit switch.


Does not need to cost you a lot.. cheaper end TP-Link like C2300 is perfectly fine with UPNP for game consoles.

I have done very successful setups with older and even cheaper routers.. 150Mbps is not too difficult to route and you can leave wireless to the TC (although you will find a router like the one I suggested has hugely better wifi than AC wireless of apple routers.

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Apr 24, 2020 4:44 AM in response to Fate7x7

NAT is a fundamental weakness of the old IPv4 system.


One solution can be using IPv6 if it is supported by your ISP. I really don't play games so setup on the xbox is something you would have to check.


Otherwise you are stuck.


More importantly, I'm not sure what (is any?) is the best way to configure for TWO Xboxes to run Xbox Live connections simultaneously.


Xbox must use UPNP to enable multiple xboxes.. it is not possible to use DMZ as only one device can be exposed.. and you cannot set fixed port mappings because xbox will not work that way.


Sorry.. but if gaming is important to you replace the TC with another router.


If it matters, it's a cable (Midco) 150 Mbps connection to an Arris Surfboard SB6190 modem to the Time Capsule (A1470) to a Netgear S350 Gigabit switch out to the Xboxes via Cat 6 cables.


You would put the new router in between the SB6190 and the TC. You can reconfigure the TC to bridge mode and leave it as is. But the Xboxes should plug directly to the new router or via the gigabit switch.


Does not need to cost you a lot.. cheaper end TP-Link like C2300 is perfectly fine with UPNP for game consoles.

I have done very successful setups with older and even cheaper routers.. 150Mbps is not too difficult to route and you can leave wireless to the TC (although you will find a router like the one I suggested has hugely better wifi than AC wireless of apple routers.

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