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High GPU Power Consumption While Using External Monitor in MacBook Pro 16-inch

I know that there is a wide post about fan noise in MacBook Pro 16-inch. It's an old post, and this issue is not clearly communicated there to all users.


While I connect an external monitor and use the internal screen as well, the GPU power consumption rises to 18 Watt in idle state. It leads the CPU temperatures to rise as well.


I use iStat as my system monitor, and you can see the results:


Beyond the fairly high CPU temperatures in idle state, the problem starts to get very disturbed when I do basic operations, and naturally the CPU temperatures rise by at least 10 to 20 degrees as a result. Directly, this causes the fans to work frequently.


I hope it's a driver issue and Apple will fix it ASAP.


Interested to hear others experiences.

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on May 2, 2020 9:15 AM

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Posted on May 3, 2020 10:36 AM

My recommendations for those who have the problem:


  1. Write feedback here: https://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html, describe the issue carefully.
  2. Call Apple support and report about this issue. Don't give up until you get an official response from the engineers.


It's very important to describe the issue as high GPU power consumption with external monitor/s, instead of complaining about fan noise, which is one of the symptoms.


We need to repeat this process as many times as needed. We need to make Apple acknowledge this problem.

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May 3, 2020 10:36 AM in response to davidbenda

My recommendations for those who have the problem:


  1. Write feedback here: https://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html, describe the issue carefully.
  2. Call Apple support and report about this issue. Don't give up until you get an official response from the engineers.


It's very important to describe the issue as high GPU power consumption with external monitor/s, instead of complaining about fan noise, which is one of the symptoms.


We need to repeat this process as many times as needed. We need to make Apple acknowledge this problem.

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May 10, 2020 9:43 AM in response to wegster

wegster wrote:

We may need a new thread simply titled - $$$ MBP16 degrades performance and longevity due to needlessly high GPU power consumption and see if it gets any attention. :(

Doing that here won't do any good. This is an end user forum and the handful of Apple Mods are so busy keeping the wheels on this massive forum that they do not have time to read and report threads to Engineering. I've been here almost 20 years--trust me on this.


The best action has already been posted: the feedback link. That gets information to Apple employees working in development and things get done. This is the link for MacBook Pro issues:


Feedback - MacBook Pro - Apple

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May 2, 2020 9:53 AM in response to davidbenda

I have some more information that may interest you:


Clamshell mode

  1. One monitor: 6 Watt
  2. Dual monitors: 8 Watt


Windows 10 vid BootCamp

  1. Externl monitor, lid open: 14 Watt
  2. External monitor, clamshell: 3 Watt


For some reason, only while the lid is open the power consumption is very high. Moreover, the consumption in windows lower by at least 4 Watt.


I searched for similar cases of high power consumption of the GPU with external monitors. Many of the NVIDIA GPUs had the same issue in recent years. It took them a while, but they finally fixed that with drivers update. To the best of my understanding, the drivers update is up to Apple.


(Take a look if you want: https://www.techpowerup.com/249345/nvidia-finally-fixes-multi-monitor-power-consumption-of-turing-geforce-20-tested-on-rtx-2070-2080-and-2080-ti)


As I mentioned before, I hope it's a driver issue.

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May 3, 2020 7:28 AM in response to davidbenda

I can confirm that my MacBook Pro 16" connected via either an LG 4k 27" or the LG 5K2K 34", has the following behaviour:

  • clam-shell mode: fans at about 1700-1900 RPM, as normal, low noise
  • lid open (it does not matter if display brightness on MBP is zero, or if mirror displays or extend desktop mode): fans about 3200-3300 RPM, noisy


So yeah, I don't mind the clam-shell mode but we loose the True Tone on the external monitor in this way, which is a pity.

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May 3, 2020 11:35 AM in response to wegster

Temps etc. for my above post as we seemingly can't edit once posted.. :-/

MBP 16 32 GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 8 GB AMD.

Single external 38" UQ QHD+ 3840x1600 attached. Makes no difference in cable attachments, with or without dock, 18W+ minimum. Wanted to add a second, but instead am stuck with this.

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May 2, 2020 9:29 AM in response to davidbenda

I am also experiencing this problem, connecting a monitor will raise the machine temp by 20c+ when idle. When doing video calls the temp can increase significantly, something which does not happen when the monitor is not connected.


MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2019)

2.3 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9

16 GB 2667 MHz DDR4

AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 4 GB

Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB


LG 34WK95U-W

Resolution: 6720 x 2834

UI Looks like: 3360 x 1417 @ 60 Hz

Framebuffer Depth: 30-Bit Color (ARGB2101010)

Mirror: Off

Online: Yes

Connection Type: Thunderbolt/DisplayPort


Am using the same cable that came with the monitor and which was working with the previous gen MBP.

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May 2, 2020 9:55 AM in response to TailsDog

I have the same problem.


MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2019)

2,6 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7

16 GB 2667 MHz DDR4

AMD Radeon Pro 5300M 4 GB

Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB


Samsung S32D850T

Resolution: 2560x1440 60 Hz

Connection Type: Thunderbolt/DisplayPort


I also tried the official Apple HDMI adapter with the same result.

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May 3, 2020 11:32 AM in response to Nevroze

Same issue.

MBP 16 - 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 8GB AMD.

Numerous cables, with and without a dock - zero difference - always 18W+ with a single LG external display, so will heat soak sooner. 5W in clamshell mode.


It took Apple YEARS before they built a system I was willing to replace my higher end 2015 MBP with, and now this. This is not appropriate for a 'highest end MacBook PRO.'


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May 4, 2020 3:12 PM in response to davidbenda

I've been fighting this since Thanksgiving weekend, same issue, power consumption goes up over 19W when the lid is open and connected to an external monitor.


Since some on these forums had success with reducing the power load through going with a monitor that can accommodate higher refresh rates, I bought a new monitor with 1440P/144 Hz capabilities. Connected to my MBP 16 with the lid open (via USB-C cable to DP 1.2), I get the same result; 19.5W.


Tried several different refresh rates and resolutions, same result.

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May 5, 2020 12:55 PM in response to davidbenda

I have the same problem, my second Mac. This appears to be a software bug in macOS or AMD's drivers. Plugging in an external monitor at certain resolutions will cause the AMD GPU to draw 18-20W constantly, no matter what it's doing. This causes the total system draw to increase from ~10W to ~30W. 

My specs:

2.3 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9

16 GB 2667 MHz DDR4

Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB

1 TB Flash Storage

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May 6, 2020 8:57 AM in response to davidbenda

I just got my 16 inch MacBook Pro and have the same issue.


This is my setup:

MacBook Pro (16 inch, 2019)

2,4 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9

32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4

AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 4 GB

Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB

with

Kensington TB3 Dock

with

LG 32 inch 4k display via Display Port


My tests results match what others where saying:


The MacBook 16 inch is staying cool when I use it only with internal monitor, or if I use my external 4k monitor with MacBook in Clamshell mode (display closed).

The graphics card is struggling, if I use both an external 4k monitor and the MacBook’s internal monitor and use high resolutions, e.g. 3360 x 1890 (HiDPI)

When I choose 3360 x 1890 in low DPI for the external display, the graphics card relaxes and the system cools down.


Even with HiDPI resolution the load of the system isn’t high and it’s only at around 65°C, but the fans still go crazy at around 4000 - 5000 rpm.


To summarize: The performance is very nice, but the fans go crazy when the graphics card needs to power an external 4k monitor together with the internal monitor.


I reported it to Apple and will report it to AMD, too.

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