Phone I own/bought is "activation locked" what do I do?

Hello,


I pay/paid for 2 ipads, and 5 iphones from verizon... essentially my families devices.


My daughter doesn't live with me, and I have an Iphone XR she decided she didn't want to use for more than a month or so before changing phones again. Apparently her icloud information is tied to this phone that I own (actually have a few payments left on it from verizon) as it's not that old. She has zero idea what her icloud ID , email, or password would be.


As far as I can tell there is no 'recovery' method for if none of that information is available, etc.


The point is.. this is a good , non obsolete phone that I am paying for and would like to use for a mavic drone for obtaining images for work. Apple isn't allowing the phone to 'activate'.


So it is perplexing to me that a device I legitimately own I cannot use and have no obvious way to use it. I would have thought verizon could obviously make it work.. but google tells me that even who I make monthly payments to, provides service, etc can't do anything. But it is Apple that has it locked and , again.. I don't know how to easily get this phone working again?


What do I have to do basically?


  • I own the phone outright.
  • My daughter has no clue of icloud username/id/password or even security question(s) that might have been used when she set it up.
  • Verizon is the service provider and who sold it and all my apple devices to me.
  • The phone after using Recovery 'restore and update' (back to factory basically) - Still provides this activation lock which makes the phone a paper weight.
  • This is an Iphone XR


Can verizon make this work?


If not, what the heck does the original owner of a phone in this case do? If I need some proof of 'ownership' what do I use and how do I get this to apple over the phone/computer? (Do I even contact apple? If so how and what steps do I take here exactly?)


The common sense answer, logic would dictate that Verizon has largest network .. sells hundreds of millions of iphones.. therefore it only is logical there is a mutual cooperation with customers who run into such an 'apple activation lock' on a phone verizon can verify the customer owns -- That allows verizon to essentially press a button to give all 'verification' of non stolen property, etc.. to remove an Apple activation lock (essentially just restoring device to factory truly with no apple id attached) and said customer proceeds to setup the phone as if it were 'new' for all practical purposes.


But I suspect this isn't the case - and Apple might make this a bit of jumping through hoops process.


TLDR:


Either way - I am original owner (Iphone XR activation locked and zero apple 'id' info), and obviously need this phone to be usable - so if anyone could list the step(s) I take to accomplish this I would be incredibly grateful.


Thank you,



Posted on May 29, 2020 10:34 PM

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Posted on May 30, 2020 7:00 AM

if you are the original owner, contact Apple. They can remove the Activation Lock if provided the required paperwork. Either take the device, the original purchase receipt with the serial number, and a photo ID to the nearest Apple Store (if it has reopened)


Genius Bar Reservation and Apple Support Options - Apple.    


or contact Apple ID Support. 


 Apple ID - Official Apple Support.    


Contact Apple for help with Apple ID account security - Apple Support.  (Link doesn’t always load)   


Get Support      Work through the screens to get a chat option. 


Apple Support schedule phone call


https://twitter.com/AppleSupport       People have posted it may take an hour or more to get a response.



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May 30, 2020 7:00 AM in response to Neofate

if you are the original owner, contact Apple. They can remove the Activation Lock if provided the required paperwork. Either take the device, the original purchase receipt with the serial number, and a photo ID to the nearest Apple Store (if it has reopened)


Genius Bar Reservation and Apple Support Options - Apple.    


or contact Apple ID Support. 


 Apple ID - Official Apple Support.    


Contact Apple for help with Apple ID account security - Apple Support.  (Link doesn’t always load)   


Get Support      Work through the screens to get a chat option. 


Apple Support schedule phone call


https://twitter.com/AppleSupport       People have posted it may take an hour or more to get a response.



Jun 9, 2020 12:21 PM in response to Neofate

9 Days later and results.


My XR is successfully unlocked from the "Activation lock".


I did this without going to an Apple Store, all online with Apple Support - You can as well if you have the patience/need.


Doing this at an Apple Store would be more immediate for obvious reasons.


Apple Online Support is slow with such an issue.. they take many days to act/respond to their 'links' a live rep will give you. Again just reiterating going to Apple store vs. Not.


The main thing I would iterate is that if you are in a situation like I was: You own the device, and always have -- The proof of ownership you submit to Apple must contain the Device Serial number and/or IMEI . The submission form that Apple will give you asks you for the Device IMEI, SN, and everything you can imagine... however, I had to literally take the device ownership contract and write the device IMEI on it. (A document with the IMEI/SN and a document showing ownership of that model won't work.)


TLDR:


If you have this problem: You have two options. Show proof of ownership of device to Apple in person, or contact Apple Support and do the same with digital documents showing the same. One takes longer, that is all.


Good luck,

May 30, 2020 9:42 PM in response to Neofate

To be more clear -- I paid retail from Verizon for a New iPhone XR -- This phone was handed to my daughter who merely created an Apple ID/PW and then she a few months later returned the phone to my physical possession where it has sat for months in a box. When I restored the phone to factory defaults (as I've done many times) with Itunes in recovery mode (as you do)... The phone prompts for HER icloud username and password with "Activation Lock". [Which she , of course, has no idea what either uname or pword could be]

https://support.apple.com/contact


They will give you the process for submitting the proof of purchase Verizon should be able to provide to you. At that point Apple may remove the activation lock for you.

May 31, 2020 2:22 PM in response to LACAllen

I have just finished with Apple Support.


I did manage to figure out a way to a 'live advisor' online -- And in tandem I was speaking with verizon rep.


Long story short, I got all proof Verizon could provide. Which included the PDF of the original contract upon date of purchase.


After going through it all with the Apple Advisor,.. he set me up with a link that I needed explain in detail the issue, provide the phone serial or IMEI , and so on. I had to provide the already known 'proof of ownership' which I uploaded my verizon bill, i uploaded the PDF for the phones contract, and a few screenshots for good measure.


The Apple Advisor said it would take 2 days for residents of the United States. Therefore we shall see what happens.


I can't really do anything more.


I appreciate all of your help - I will report success or failure in the coming days. And.. lastly - Hopefully future persons with a similar difficult situation of owning an apple product but having zero Apple ID info will be able to get some direct guidance from this discussion. Be well.

May 30, 2020 10:32 PM in response to LACAllen

LACAllen wrote:

To be more clear
-- I paid retail from Verizon for a New iPhone XR -- This phone was handed to my daughter who merely created an Apple ID/PW and then she a few months later returned the phone to my physical possession where it has sat for months in a box. When I restored the phone to factory defaults (as I've done many times) with Itunes in recovery mode (as you do)... The phone prompts for HER icloud username and password with "Activation Lock". [Which she , of course, has no idea what either uname or pword could be]
https://support.apple.com/contact

They will give you the process for submitting the proof of purchase Verizon should be able to provide to you. At that point Apple may remove the activation lock for you.

I've gone through every iteration of the support.apple.com/official apple support/apple - support - solutions Website plethora of options.


None of them ever lead me to anything more than posting back on this discussion forum, some solution to 'recovery apple id'(not possible), contacting PREVIOUS owner (there isn't one), and so on. Nothing gets me to an online chat to type to someone,.. nothing even opens a box to enter my situation,.. and I didn't find any process for submitting the proof of purchase.


I admit it can certainly be hidden in the Apple system to filter users through existing 'answers/help' - even googling "how to chat with Apple Support" gives specific click on this, then that, then this directions which have changed and don't work in that way anymore.


So thank you - But could you be QUITE specific on directions.. it is needed.


Thanks

May 31, 2020 12:28 AM in response to Neofate

Note what I said above: "Apple support will not help you since you cannot provide proof of ownership that they will consider to be sufficient. You would need and have your purchase receipt for the device from an authorized Apple seller with the device's serial number on it." 


If you have the proof, the contact Apple support as I mentioned. Also, all you can do at this point is to contact Apple Support and to emphasize that you have an extenuating circumstance. We are not authorized to remove the activation lock.


May 30, 2020 5:15 AM in response to Neofate

Apparently you acquired your device second hand from someone other than Apple or an authorized Apple reseller. The information below explain what has happened. You apparently didn't know to heed the advice given below.

 

"Before you buy/acquire an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch from someone other than Apple or an authorized Apple reseller, make sure that the device is erased and no longer linked to the previous owner’s account."

 

And see: Activation Lock for iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch  https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201365. See this heading Check for Activation Lock before you buy/acquire a device from someone else.

 

 What all this means is that there is no way we can help you. We are not authorized to remove the activation lock from any device. And, under your circumstances, Apple support will not help you since you cannot provide proof of ownership that they will consider to be sufficient. You would need and have your purchase receipt for the device from an authorized Apple seller with the device's serial number on it. 

 

All I can suggest is that you try to recovery the needed password (or possibly the purchase price) from the party you acquired the iPhone from. Recovering the password is the only way the phone can be made functional for your use.

May 30, 2020 9:38 PM in response to donv_the_ghost

donv (The Ghost) wrote:

Apparently you acquired your device second hand from someone other than Apple or an authorized Apple reseller. The information below explain what has happened. You apparently didn't know to heed the advice given below.
 
"Before you buy/acquire an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch from someone other than Apple or an authorized Apple reseller, make sure that the device is erased and no longer linked to the previous owner’s account."
 Recovering the password is the only way the phone can be made functional for your use.


donv(The Ghost)


First, I appreciate the time taken to reply.


However, I made it abundantly clear that this phone came from Verizon, as all of my many apple devices have. Thus, Verizon is without question an 'authorized Apple Reseller'.


To be more clear -- I paid retail from Verizon for a New iPhone XR -- This phone was handed to my daughter who merely created an Apple ID/PW and then she a few months later returned the phone to my physical possession where it has sat for months in a box. When I restored the phone to factory defaults (as I've done many times) with Itunes in recovery mode (as you do)... The phone prompts for HER icloud username and password with "Activation Lock". [Which she , of course, has no idea what either uname or pword could be]


Upon some quick research Apple decided to really lock these devices down and I am merely asking the correct steps to make this phone operate again as it is.. it is a paper weight.


So no -- I didn't buy this phone off Ebay and the previous owner forgot to unlink it (I've sold a few iphones in my day and know the process to prevent that issue (by unlinking my apple ID on phone and via device list in web browser icloud). I didn't steal the phone or find it. A friend didn't give it to me.


I bought it new, it has always been mine.. it is merely the aforementioned Apple ID lack of information or anyway to obtain it that has "me" unable to do anything with it.


I know this might sound snarky/rude.. not my intention. I'm just making it abundantly clear, as apparently the original post did not,.. given your reply that this is not the scenario you outlined.


Thanks for the response,

May 30, 2020 10:05 PM in response to Eric Root

Eric Root wrote:

if you are the original owner, contact Apple. They can remove the Activation Lock if provided the required paperwork. Either take the device, the original purchase receipt with the serial number, and a photo ID to the nearest Apple Store (if it has reopened)



Eric,


Thank you.


You listed quite a few scenarios here.


I gathered before I wrote the original post that, unfortunately, I may have to physically go to an Apple Store.. provide some proof it is actually mine (I bought it new).. and then surely they would press a few buttons/hook it up and use their proprietary software to essentially eliminate any associated apple ID's thus removing the (turn into paper weight Activation Lock).


I was hoping that I could do something online. Screenshot my verizon bill showing the device,.. etc.. and Apple would remove the ID.


So can I get this done online or over the phone? Or does this 100% require a Covid trip to an Apple store whereupon I need proof of ownership?


Lastly, on proof of ownership -- I do not still have the physical paper receipt as most wouldn't 2 years later. Though logging into my Verizon account online obviously lists all my iphones/ipads, their numbers, payments remaining, and of course I can bring up a PDF view of my bill but there is no replication of an in hand receipt. Best I could do is screenshot/pdf device details/account info from the verizon website.


Is ^^ That proof for Apple Store?


So again, is there anyway online to do this as everything can be sent digitally just as it can physically -- Or is it in person to Apple Store = only way?


Thanks for your help,


May 31, 2020 12:27 PM in response to LACAllen

I guess how to get to a human 'not' on the phone.. but online is what I was driving at.


Sounds like I'm getting mixed messages whether Apple will help "online" with me sending in say screenshots of my Verizon bill showing devices (the XR ownership/proof) and if needed, a photo of my drivers license for good measure.


OR.. if that's not gonna happen.. but in person only.

May 31, 2020 12:47 PM in response to Neofate

Sounds like I'm getting mixed messages whether Apple will help "online" with me sending in say screenshots of my Verizon bill showing devices (the XR ownership/proof) and if needed, a photo of my drivers license for good measure.

Did you call Apple Support as suggested several times here?


Not sure where you see a mixed message.


This is not Apple Support. Apple does not offer "online" real time support or we would have suggested that.

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