Big Sur support on iMac late 2013

Must have been a whim… 🙃

Local university property disposition store sells financially depreciated 27in iMacs for $nnn. Got my Late-2013 iMac there two years ago for $500, and by now, they may have 2015 or later models for sale. Would make a nice bridge for Big Sur until suitable ARM-based iMac becomes available.

FWIW, I am in the same boat as you with my late 2013 27" iMac.

I was in the market for a new Mac of some sort but with the

future switch to ARM not sure whether I will stick with

Apple or move to "the dark side". If I could possibly be able

to play with 'Big Sur", it would help that decision.

from the numbers point of view this is true.

But since you are changing a lot of things that can impact "pro" apps and features maybe let check these with the greatest part of users, and owners of this, still not vintage, piece of hardware should be involved.

probably it's urgent to test "toy" features, avoid complaint on "pro"features in order to get a better quality ratio (IE "less tests, less problems" as politicians say)

When I design a new project I tend to set the line just over the reasonable limit. Doing so my projects never got problems in this ever evolving world.

AntonioMac wrote:...and owners of this, still not vintage, piece of hardware should be involved...

It is something of a valid point. Perhaps someone could enlighten me,

but I don't recall an macOS that dropped support for a device yet to be

declared vintage, although for a 2013 iMac that will likely be soon.

Fact: NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M Supports Vulcan 1.1.126 (isn't that better than 1.1.80?)

1.1.80 looks like is higher version

GT750m doesn’t support natively Dx12 just by software and with very low performance

I know is more for apple to add more supported devices but Intel HD 5000 and Iris 5100/5200 are slightly newer so thats why is easier to say some mac’s are not supported for apple.

That’s how computers make money, if your mac is not supported you will buy new one, simple as it is.

Mac87Pro wrote:

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That’s how computers make money, if your mac is not supported you will buy new one, simple as it is.

If you have been following this entire thread, buying a new one or not

has not been the issue (see my June 24 post).

I’m not saying buy new one. Just normal thing after so many years people buy new mac anyway. I’m the one who will try to make it working even system is not supported but I’m not against buying a new one to. If that make sense ;)

I have such iMac 2013 with 3,5 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, 32 GB of RAM and a GeForce GTX 780M 4GB

Still today, more than half the machines sold by apple as new don't even have as much power as my machine. Surely this is a ******** marketing decision not to support "older" models. I understand they have to narrow down the list of machines in order to reduce costs of testing. But they could still allows everyone to run the software with a big warning saying the machine will probably run slower and all features might not be available.

thibautrey wrote:

But they could still allows everyone to run the software with a big warning saying the machine will probably run slower and all features might not be available.

Why. would you want to install an OS that made your computer slower and had features you couldn't use?

thibautrey wrote:

But they could still allows everyone to run the software with a big warning saying the machine will probably run slower and all features might not be available.

You have not been around these boards much. Apple gave plenty of warning about the 64-bit switch, and we get thousands of complaints. "I just dismissed that warning, I did not know it applied to *me*!"

I understand Apple preferred to exclude all iMac 2013 while I have a late 2013 iMac with a custom 2GB NVRAMe configuration, 32GB DDR3 and a 1TO SSD.

I will wait for a patch to arrive on the market to remedy this.

philoo84 wrote:

I understand Apple preferred to exclude all iMac 2013 while I have a late 2013 iMac with a custom 2GB NVRAMe configuration, 32GB DDR3 and a 1TO SSD.

I will wait for a patch to arrive on the market to remedy this.

I would not hold my breath as it is not going to happen.

FWIW, I managed to get the public beta installed in a VM and really saw

zero that would compel me to even attempt any of those "patches" that

had the potential to brick my system or tote along with them "hidden nasties".

Had a list of updates this morning, all applied ok except Garageband which cannot upgrade unless I have Mac OS version 11 which I guess is Big Sur. I also have a late 2013 27". So maybe 2013 using Catalina OS 10.15.7 is not supported.

My big question is, will Apple include 2013 iMac users later on? is sounds realli unfair! I've only had my 2013 iMac 5 months because I bought it off my sister. Come on apple sort your **** out!!! :(