Apple Watch: ECG In Australia

I guarantee if they are selling watches and have Apple Stores in Australia they are paying a lot of taxes. Governments don't let you come in and sell commercially with getting their cut. That will not affect the regulations a bit. The citizens of a country usually have the most power.

The new watch is out no mention for Ecg in 🇦🇺 again. Also claims to measure blood ox but also unlikely for Australia market. One part says it may work. The next screen coming soon. I have a ecg series 4. Basically no updates for Aussies again.

0^2 stats shouldnt have regulatory requirements beyond the basics. Unlike ECG

To reply to the tax query as I'm here.

A quick google search (another tax dodger) will show that, yes, apple pay tax, just perhaps not as much as they should

You mean WatchOS 7? It's the official update that rolls out with iOS 14 at the same time. Perhaps you need to update both phone and watch OSes.

My Watch Series 5 is purchased through Vodafone, so it's certainly a local spec model, and the hardware is indeed inside the model, just not activated till now.

Something very strange. Me and my wife both bought the Apple Watch series 5 in Australia apple store Sydney. After upgraded to watchOS 7. My watch shows ECG app and it’s working. My wife’s watch doesn’t have the app. So strange. Same model. Anyone knows the reason?

The solved was awarded by the original poster the only one that can mark it that way. He was satisfied with the answer. Complain to him not us. How is it politically charged to ask your citizens to do something that would benefit them? Is that not allowed under your political system? No one that doesn’t live in Australia cares about your countries rules. They are your problem not ours. If you can’t or won’t petition to change them to keep up with new technologies don’t complain to us. We are volunteers who give our time and knowledge to point out possible reasons for why it might not be approved there. If you don’t like our help or opinions then don’t ask for them.

if you read the entire thread you would see some good answers as to why Apple may have not submitted an application for approval. Why bother spending time and money submitting a device for approval when you know that it will be turned down. Apple didn’t get successful wasting money that way.

About your statement that if we’re not in Australia we shouldn’t comment about anything to do with y’all. You do realize this forum is in the USA with people from all over the world asking questions and submitting answers. If you don’t want advice from foreigners don’t ask here. That will be the majority of the people.

Again, how much extra does Apple charge for those two features. Do you not use ANY other of the features on the Apple watch? If no, and you purchase it just for the ECG that is a serious purchasing mistake.

Hi Deggie,

Please help me on this. I have searched for a definition of "Single Axis" and can't find one. In particular I'd like to know how the standard Kardi device (no third probe) is a "Dual Axis" device?

I hope you can clarify?

Do a search for ECG Axis. Hospital machines use lots of them. It just means two points of contact for dual axis, on the Watch the digital crown provides a single axis point, the back of the watch does not serve as an axis.

Exactly. And to make matters worse I specifically asked staff about the ECG and irregular rhythm features based on hereditary health concerns.

In response to another user’s comment about it being a purchasing mistake - yes it was, but it was helped by advice given by specialists who should quite frankly know better. Indeed, asking staff is considered PRODUCT RESEARCH. I’ve gone straight to the source and the source was wrong.

As for the value of the watch sans these features, you can’t calculate that based on what other features you use. You would have to base value on an average worth of all features and manufacturing costs, design, firmware, marketing, etc, etc. only Apple can do this as they alone have set the price for the product based on all of those factors.

You would also look towards other technology to consider features and price. Look to computers for instance - if you want to add functionality and enhanced features, you have to pay for it by purchasing software or hardware components (like RAM).

Patentlyapple is not an Apple endorsed website. They can post whatever gibberish they want. Nonetheless the back of the Watch does not count as an axis. The crown is the only axis on the watch for ECG (per your country's definition of a ECG axis.) Your dang website that you referenced looks like a blog.

I will also say that further discussion in this thread doesn't speed up Apple into making ECG available in Aus.

The price is based on ALL features. If you don’t get all of those features, why should you pay for everything? There’s no set price for other large purchases - you don’t pay for what you don’t get when it comes to other items like cars, televisions, computers, etc. Why should I pay for features I don’t get with the Apple Watch?

Yes, the staff said those features were available in Australia. When I realised those features weren’t available, I called both of the stores I visited and asked to speak with the manager. I have submitted my feedback to the stores I received this advice from. I also asked if I could get my older watch back and return the Watch I purchased, and I was told no - my trade-in had been sent away already. There were no older referb models available to exchange for either, so it further limited my options, but either way I’d be either out of pocket, or without a watch completely.

both use the same measurement technique.

And yet as I quoted Apple before in this thread, Apple says that it doesn't. Apple described how the watch measures ECG using a combination of the Digital Crown lead and the UV LEDs that measure blood flow in the vessels beneath the watch. The Kardia does nothing like that.

You need to button it up and move on. You're rearguing stuff already covered here.

Thank you for the information that Australia will supposedly be modifying regulations in January 2021 - would you mind sending me your source please? I would like to pass it on to the Gizmodo journalist along with the post that ‘supposes’ Apple have not applied for ECG approval because they know their technology does not meet the Australian standards.