Ok, it’s now 04 July 2020.
So, when will ECG be released in Australia.
I upgraded my Apple Watch specifically to get ECG, promised by Apple at that time.
Who is responsible in the Medical profession here for this absurd level of procrastination, please tell me...
Apple Watch
Given the registration hasn't occurred the issue is hardly solved!
Interesting that Apple doesn't seem to be able to negotiate the relatively easy TGA registration process, especially since there exists what is known as a Global Medical Device Nomenclature code (recognised by the TGA) that covers the hardware and another that covers the software! Would hate to think it is just laziness on Apple's part or that they won't provide any details to TGA, which to be frank is usually less than the US and the same as the UK and EU.
For information, the relevant codes are below. Registration takes less than a day to complete the form and usually an answer is received within a couple of days.
Hardware
Name
Wearable multiple physiological parameter recorder
Definition
An electrically-powered, wearable device (e.g., wristband, watch, finger probe, head-worn sensor) designed to continuously or intermittently measure and record multiple physiological parameters [e.g., heart rate, respiration rate, electrocardiograph, haemoglobin oxygen saturation (Sp02), routine body movement] using one or more technologies [e.g., photoplethysmography (PPG), reflectance pulse oximetry, electrocardiography, accelerometry). The data is typically transferred to a local application (e.g., smartphone) or central database for analysis, which might include evaluation of lifestyle factors (e.g., energy expenditure, activity level, sleep patterns).
Software
Name
Smartphone camera home cardiovascular monitoring application software
Definition
A software program designed for use in a smartphone/watch with a built-in camera to periodically measure, via transcutaneous optical reading, and display cardiovascular parameters (e.g., pulse wave, heart rate variability, SpO2, blood pressure, LVEDP) for assessment of cardiovascular function to assist diagnosis of disease (e.g., arrythmia, cardiac autonomic neuropathy); it may also be used to provide general lifestyle/fitness advice or during a controlled Valsalva manoeuvre to facilitate cardioversion of supraventricular tachycardia (SVT). This is a home-use device which may allow for remote communication of data with a clinician; it may in addition be used in a clinical setting.
This is my opinion. If you are in the US and bought a US watch, going to Mexico won't cause the ECG app to stop functioning. But if you do a watchOS update to your watch while you are in Mexico, it may stop functioning because a Mexican targeted update wouldn't allow the app to function.
EleValenzuela wrote:
My phone have a plan on US. And lm gonna buy the apple watch 6 on US to.
but my country Apple ID is from México.
Then if ECG is not available in Mexico, you won't have access to it.
Yes - in store staff. The staff in physical brick and mortar stores.
I’m looking at the online store now and it does state the blood sensor is a feature - it’s the first one listed and there’s a picture of the watch with that app open. The website also lists the ability to detect irregularities in the heartbeat, which one could assume means irregular rhythm. That feature isn’t available either, but it can alert you to high and low heart rates.
i am aware this is an international online community but I think given this thread is specifically about Australia and I’ve said I’m in Australia and was dealing with staff in Australian stores a number of times, that one could make a reasonable assumption that I’m in Australia? haha
as for the staff - I’ve submitted feedback to the Australian stores, but it’s too late. My older Apple Watch has already been traded in - they couldn’t return it to me, and I’d be out of pocket whichever decision I made about the watch I upgraded to - as stated in a previous post. I’ve also submitted online feedback through my post sale survey.
What’s your source for the information on Samsung’s watch ECG being approved? I can only see one Samsung device approved by the TGA this year, not clear if it’s a watch, or a specific purpose device, it’s described as:
38729 Electrocardiographic long-term ambulatory recorder, telemetric
Intended to be worn by the patient to record and transmit ambulatory and resting electrocardiographs. The recordings are transmitted via an app to a 'secured cloud' and displayed on a physician's portal.
I have written to the minister of health this morning, also contacted SA Health in Adelaide.
I hope this will help make their minds up about this very vital app.
I want them to enable it ASAP.
Christian
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Enabling the ECG is not a perfect tool, however it will warn you to seek medical advice. It is a tool just like monitoring heart rate. Blood Oxygen, and fitness. It must be used in these easy to read forms. In other words peace of mind, which with Covid now is an easy way of seeing and being warned if your readings are not your normal results. This takes pressure off ones mind and gives control to the user who has paid for that tool. No one can argue this as if you go to have a blood test and wait for the results with much anxiety. Having ECG can eliminate that worry, for seniors the Apple watch has already helped me from a fall. I did not need it to dial emergency or text my contacts, however if I could not talk and was alone it may well have saved my life.
And is not Apples mission to keep people health fit and give good readings.
Here in Australia our prime minister has recently said that we have gained 5 years of Tech in only 6 months.
Even he a Prime Minister can see the benefits. My only concern is Apple use our data for each person and not to sell or advertise these extremely powerful tools.
Please Push to Enable ECG in Australia on my Apple Watch 6. It may save my life.
Christian Johannes Roessler
Apple does not need permission to help save lives by a tech device. It is that simple.
Did anyone complain when Siri helped us all contact lawyers, doctors, help find the way home when we were lost.
Or listen to music.
You can now hold down a button that contacts emergency services if you under duress or fallen over.
Permission is not required it plain to see that ECG will help.
It is maybe other jealousy from big company's with expensive machines who fight technology. They can try to stall, but the chips are smaller and smarter.
This is only the beginning of improved health for all.
Is this not what we all would dream of and have been wishing for in Science fiction. Now it fact. Do not stop it or it will just be bypassed anyway. Embrace the Tech.
That is all I want to say on the matter, this tit for tat.
Christian Johannes Roessler
SwissCheese, welcome to the Apple Support Communities! Live long and prosper. 🖖
I'm not sure that we could have survived in this long honey pot, had you not reposted something that's been posted a few dozen times already. That's a super great way to break in your shiny new Apple Support Communities account.
You should read the Terms of Use before you agree to them and sign up at sites, this is a user-to-user technical support site operated by Apple, he is not an Apple employee nor am I.
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The ECG is only helpful if you stop what you're doing and take the 30 seconds to run the check. It won't do it on its own. Folks posting here act like it is going to bring about their premature death if Australia doesn't get this function.
Not true. Life will go on.
Sitting still for 30 seconds while it is performed is nothing. Besides, it’s not just the ECG function that’s absent - the irregular heart rhythm feature is also missing, and that is performed on the fly at regular intervals.
Actually, I've tried many, many times to unfollow this topic but to no avail. It's one of the known bugs in the Apple Support Communities forum software. So I get an email every time someone posts here, such as your "helpful" comment above. Thankfully this thread is being ignored a lot now so the emails are less frequent.
I'm not an employee as deggie said, I've just used Apple products since the 1st Mac was released in 1984. So I'm just a long term user who knows a thing or two about some Apple stuff. I'm only on my 2nd Watch, so I can only help here with the basics.
Visit the Using App Store forum, I'm King-of-the-Hill over there! I've helped folks in that forum since its inception when the Mac App Store was public beta software.
ASC - Late 2012 Mac mini, macOS 10.15.7; Watch, series 5 GPS/cellular, watchOS 7.0.2; iPad Pro 2nd Gen, iPadOS 14.1; iPad Air 2, iPadOS 14.1; iPhone 8+, iOS 14.1; TV 4th Gen, tvOS 14.0.2 HomePods, audioOS 14.1 and Airport Express w/ Airplay 2
Hello newbie! It's great how you are breaking in your brand spanking new Apple Support Communities account.
It's Dah•veed, the Spanish pronunciation of David. Close, but no cigar. They're bad for your heart anyway.
The little • is made by typing option + 8.
lachlan211 wrote:
Dah*veed thank you for adding your comment to this forum. That's amazing, very insightful. I look forward to more pearls of wisdom in the future.
Yes Da•veed is indeed an asset to these forums. It's kind of you to notice.
Credits to Lawrence Finch, if you want to unfollow this dang thread --> press the unfollow button above, reload page, repeat if it didn't work.
Note: Took me 23 times on the last thread I did this on, but hey, it works!
Apple Watch: ECG In Australia
