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How do I connect Airport Extremes & Expresses to a hardline Ethernet?

I'm sure this is obvious, but I don't know it.

I had an all wifi network trying to connect four buildings over about 300'. The Airports connected, but didn't really communicate. It was stretched too thin. So I tried something else.

I dug a trench and ran 300' of Ethernet connecting the four buildings, using NetGear 1Gb Switches to provide outlets along the way. The computers on the new Ethernet successfully connected and can talk to each other, BUT I still need wifi for iPhones and iPads. I thought I could attach the Airports to the Netgear Switches, but it didn't work. All the Airports are flashing yellow. I've tried a few Airport Utility set-up options, but nothing. I stopped trying, so as not to mess things up. How can I attach three Airports to an Ethernet network?

iPhone 5, iOS 10

Posted on Jul 5, 2020 7:56 PM

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Posted on Jul 11, 2020 3:50 PM

Each is set to "Extend Existing Network" (or whatever the exact phrase is).


Wrong setting. "Extend a wireless network" is used only when the AirPort connects to another AirPort network using a wireless connection.......not Ethernet. As it stands now, you are creating big feedback loops for each Express network, which effectively crashes the network in the area near each AirPort Express.


The correct setting would be "Create a wireless network" using the same wireless network name and password of the wireless network that you want to extend. And.....check to make sure that each AirPort Express is set up in Bridge Mode, which Apple calls "Off (Bridge Mode)".


If you are still having trouble, post back and we'll start all over with each AirPort and set it up the correct way using the AirPort Utility setup "wizard", which will automatically apply the correct settings.


The trick here.......you must connect the Express to Ethernet......before.....you run the setup utility, so the "wizard" will pick up the Ethernet connection and apply the correct settings.


If you don't connect the Express to Ethernet before you set it up, the "wizard" will pick up the wireless connection and configure the Express to connect using wireless. Then, when you connect Ethernet, a huge feedback loop is created, crashing that portion of the network.


Unfortunately, Apple never bothers to mention things like this in the Setup Guide.






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Jul 11, 2020 3:50 PM in response to JobsReplacement

Each is set to "Extend Existing Network" (or whatever the exact phrase is).


Wrong setting. "Extend a wireless network" is used only when the AirPort connects to another AirPort network using a wireless connection.......not Ethernet. As it stands now, you are creating big feedback loops for each Express network, which effectively crashes the network in the area near each AirPort Express.


The correct setting would be "Create a wireless network" using the same wireless network name and password of the wireless network that you want to extend. And.....check to make sure that each AirPort Express is set up in Bridge Mode, which Apple calls "Off (Bridge Mode)".


If you are still having trouble, post back and we'll start all over with each AirPort and set it up the correct way using the AirPort Utility setup "wizard", which will automatically apply the correct settings.


The trick here.......you must connect the Express to Ethernet......before.....you run the setup utility, so the "wizard" will pick up the Ethernet connection and apply the correct settings.


If you don't connect the Express to Ethernet before you set it up, the "wizard" will pick up the wireless connection and configure the Express to connect using wireless. Then, when you connect Ethernet, a huge feedback loop is created, crashing that portion of the network.


Unfortunately, Apple never bothers to mention things like this in the Setup Guide.






Jul 11, 2020 3:24 PM in response to LaPastenague

Okay. Very frustrated. I've been working on this for three days solid.

I reset all of the Airports.

I plugged them in.

If I was close to the Main Hub (Airport Extreme), they worked.

But when I moved them down the chain to the buildings where I need wifi, they just flashed amber again, EVEN WHEN I PLUGGED THEM INTO THE HARDWIRE NETWORK.

The hardwire network works. I have Macs in each building connected to the Ethernet.

But the airports plugged into the Ethernet don't do anything.

Each is set to "Extend Existing Network" (or whatever the exact phrase is).


I have taken a screen captures. 1. As it appears. 2. AUGMENTED IT TO SHOW THE NETGEAR SWITCHES. Each building has a switch.

Jul 5, 2020 9:05 PM in response to JobsReplacement

Reset the airport to factory before you plug it in.. They are likely setup wrongly and will crash the network without a reset before configuration.


Once you have reset plug wan airport to the switch.. and open the airport utility.. click the Other WiFi Devices (1) on the main screen and simply run through the setup wizard..


Use short names, no spaces and pure alphanumerics for everything.

Password same rules but longer.


It should work .. if it fails give us screenshots from the Airport utility with the setup so we can see what is failing.

Jul 11, 2020 6:51 PM in response to JobsReplacement

Nice work!


Not to be too technical here, but what you have is known as a "roaming network". That is a form of extended network in which all of the AirPorts connect using Ethernet and all of them are configured the same.......to create a wireless network that uses the same wireless network name, security and password.


There is virtually no limit to the number of AirPorts that can be configured in this type of network, so additional AirPorts can be added as needed providing there is an Ethernet connection available at the location.



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