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MBP 13 2020 won't recognize USB devices from TB dock after sleeping and connecting to the dock. After unplugging the dock MBP crashes and does SMC reset

Device: MBP 13" 2020 10th gen i5

Catalina 10.15.6

Dock: CalDigit TS3+ with firmware 44.1


I'm not sure if this problem is exclusive to Catalina 10.15.6, but I can't say since my dock arrived after the latest update got shipped and I haven't tried if it works on 10.15.5.


Basically, I unplug the dock at night and put the MBP to sleep. After a few hours of sleep it seems to stop recognizing the USB devices plugged into the dock. The dock has a USB audio interface, a logitech wireless dongle (for G604 mouse), a DP monitor and the power supply for the dock. When I plug it after the mac has been in sleep for hours, the mac won't recognize the audio card and the mouse (just the USB issue we had in previous catalina versions with all kinds of USB hubs and USB devices), but the monitor works and everything has power supplied to it, including the USB devices.

If I then unplug the dock and replug it, often the mac straight-up crashes completely and shuts down, powering on with an error that it recovered from a problem ( it also does an SMC reset).


The error report later states: "Intel CrashLog recorded due to unexpected reset".


This reddit thread speaks of the exact same issue with a different monitor and some people with different docks:

https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/i0m9si


Basically, what I'm saying is that the original USB issue is not fixed yet and now it's much worse because:

  1. You can't fix the USB problem unless you restart the mac - re-plugging the devices into the dock won't solve it
  2. The macbook directly crashes and does an SMC reset if you unplug/replug the dock, wiping your unsaved data and crashing anything else you might have open at the time


Additional problem: Monitor sometimes doesn't wake up at all after mac is awoken from sleep. At one point the monitor went to sleep WHILE I was using the mac actively.


I have tried NVRAM/SMC resets and they did nothing.


I wrote an email to CalDigit and they confirmed a lot of other users have complained about this:


"Our engineers have been investigating into the brand new 2020 MacBooks as we’ve had detailed reports from several of our customers who have tried many different brands of docks, from OWC, Kensington, Elgato and ours and none of them have been able to function correctly via the latest chipsets in these Macs."


PLEASE FIX the usb/dock/monitor issues already! This is a problem of Apple devices exclusively. This is unacceptable for a laptop at this price from the year 2020. Cheap off-brand laptops do not have such issues with peripherals!!

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Aug 4, 2020 11:01 AM

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Posted on Dec 7, 2020 12:06 PM

I've been having this issue w/ my 13" 2020 MBP since I started using it a couple of months ago, with different dock models.



TL;DR


  • Issue reproduced on 2 different 13" 2020 MBPs running 10.15.7, one running a clean macOS install (no additional software installed), w/ 2 different TB docks.
  • 13" 2018 MBP works fine in all of the (same) tested configurations.




Details:


Since I have the benefit of having multiple MBPs and docks to test with, I'm (not that folks here require convincing) incredibly confident this issue isn't due to some people having faulty hardware (e.g. logic board, dock, whatever).


  • I was easily able to reproduce the kernel panic ("Intel CrashLog recorded due to unexpected reset") on a freshly installed 13” 2020 MBP (clean macOS installation- zero software installed).
  • This is consistently reproduced w/ 2 different 10.15.7 builds ((19H2 and 19H15 - didn't bother to test 19H4 and/or 10.15.6).
  • 10.15.5 (19F2200) works fine.
  • 11.0.1 (20B50 - didn't test 20B29) works fine.


I tested 2 different setups:


  • OWC TB3 dock, with 2 devices connected to it- Dell U2719DC monitor (DisplayPort) and Logitech K120 USB keyboard:


                     +---------+
                     |   MBP   |
                     +----+----+
                          |
                          |
                         TB3
                          |
                          v
                   +------+-------+
                   | OWC TB3 dock |
                   +----+-----+---+
                       |     |
                      USB    DP
+---------------+      |     |      +--------------+
| Logitech K120 +------+     +------+ Dell U2719DC |
+---------------+                   +--------------+



                     +---------+
                     |   MBP   |
                     +----+----+
                          |
                          |
                 Apple TB3/TB2 adapter
                          |
                          v
                 +--------+---------+
                 | Apple TB Display |
                 +------------------+


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Sep 3, 2020 3:59 AM in response to Andre Vaux

After a massive headache and many hours with support, Apple eventually agreed to refund the money for the incompatible dock (CalDigit TS3+ in my case). Too bad they won't also take back the laptop -- my 2015 air was far more stable/reliable (and didn't require carrying around a full bag of adapters). This is likely to be my last Apple product.

Sep 3, 2020 6:12 AM in response to broko_fankone

Having the same problem with a 2020 MacBook Air (i5, 16GB RAM) and a Kensington (K38625US) thunderbolt dock. I'm plugging into an LG 27GL83A-B as well as a Dell U2419HC. I've tried many fixes that have been listed by others here. It seems to be OS related. Happens on a daily basis.


I seem to be able to recreate it by connecting my laptop to the thunderbolt dock, docking my laptop by closing the lid and using it, undocking my MacBook by unplugging it (when I switch to docking my work laptop instead), and then plugging my MacBook back in to dock it. It always fails to dock properly, and when I unplug it and open the lid, it crashes and tells me "Intel CrashLog recorded due to unexpected reset" on reboot.

Sep 4, 2020 5:23 AM in response to xoran-iblh

I've been having issues described here with v10.15.6 as well, and like others, I have the 2020 13" MBP with a TS3+ dock. The only thing I'd like to add regards the OS version and behavior. I've been tracking an issue on this laptop for a few months now (back when it was running v10.15.5), and as I wrote (paraphrased) in my notes:

There exists a repeatable problem that happens a couple times a week (sometimes twice in one day). It seems to be correlated to using the dock, but this isn't very well defined. At some point, I plug my computer into the dock and the external USB keyboard stops working. Once the keyboard stops working, I have to use the laptop keyboard until I reboot the computer. Once the above issue with the keyboard is seen, the computer will keep working for some number of minutes or hours, and then will crash to a black screen that says (in 6 languages), "Your computer restarted because of a problem. Press a key or wait a few seconds to continue starting up."

As far as I can tell, the only difference between v10.15.5 and v10.15.6 is the delay between when the failure occurs, and when it actually crashes the OS.


I submitted this issue to Apple Care and they ran a "full 6-hour diagnostic test" overnight and found no fault with the hardware. So they reformatted the laptop and reinstalled macOS (v10.15.6). I brought the laptop home (installed only Firefox and Vivaldi from the initial state) and reproduced the crash the very next day. I just made it happen again 5 minutes ago.


This is maybe obvious to everyone, but just in case it needs to be clear; this is utterly unacceptable. I bought this laptop on the hope of stability.


Sep 5, 2020 12:23 PM in response to kinvoki

Of course this is not an issue with the dock. Nothing new. Already been confirmed.


I have multiple thunderbolt docks at work and all of them shows the same issue, however all of them works just fine with older Macbooks. So yeah, it's already obvious this is software related and only related to the (13") 2020 MBP...

Sep 9, 2020 7:53 AM in response to WesleydeSouza

I found a partial workaround. Your mileage may vary.


I have 2020 13" MBP with an Elgato Thunderbolt 3 Pro Dock and experience both the kernel panic (system crash) and non-working ports that many others have described.


After systematically testing with separate user accounts, I can now avoid the system crash, by changing a setting in System Preferences under Security & Privacy in the General tab. I had set it to require password "immediately" after sleep or screen saver begins. As far as I can tell, on my system, changing this setting to anything else, e.g., 5 seconds prevents the system from crashing. But I still have a problem getting the Ethernet port to connect when reconnecting the dock. This still requires a reboot.


I hope this might help others avoid system crashes.

Sep 9, 2020 8:25 AM in response to Dan Mønster

^ Unfortunately this did not help me. I always had it set to "immediately", unfortunately no dice for me. When I disconnect the dock, close macbook, connect it again, ports does not work, disconnect and I get kernel panic and restart.

100% reproducible all the time even with the "immediately" require password after sleep or screen saver begins. So this does not do it for me. :(


What does it for me is changing my laptop to Dell. This works. I can recommend it to others, because Apple so called support is unbelievable. I've got fully loaded MBP for 2k USD, yet I can't keep uptime longer than 1 day and I must reboot every time before I reconnect Apple-recommended docking station. Well done Apple.

Sep 9, 2020 9:27 AM in response to Dan Mønster

I've now raised a case with Apple.

It's very important we all do this.


The support guy I spoke with said he couldn't find any specific notes about this issue on their system. So I've sent him a link to this thread.


He said he would get it escalated with the Engineering department, and thought it sounded like firmware update would be required.


Perhaps the more people that raise a case, the more likely this will get resolved sooner.



Sep 9, 2020 12:37 PM in response to broko_fankone

I am glad I am not the only one. I have the same issue with a OWC Thunderbolt 3 Dock (https://www.owcdigital.com/products/thunderbolt-3-dock-14-port) on my new MBP 13 2020 going to my Dell 4k display. I am very unhappy with apple about this as it seems they need to resolve this. I am very tired of seeing: Intel CrashLog recorded due to unexpected reset


Sep 9, 2020 1:21 PM in response to Dan Mønster

I created a ticket. They want me to reproduce the problem in safe mode. I will do that shortly.


As with others, the conversation always assumes it's the dock that's the problem despite my sharing this thread. I don't understand how dock manufacturers are in touch with Apple engineers but this isn't documented anywhere.

Sep 9, 2020 2:10 PM in response to dd36

I'm very happy to read that CalDigit have sent data to Apple and claim it might get resolved with an update. Since obviously, for us - the users - the problem is with our docks and the alignment of planets, not the macs!


Jokes aside, here are 3 ways you can 100% avoid this problem, although the workarounds are nowhere near good enough to be called a permanent solution. I am also not entirely sure it will work the same way with monitor hubs, but it might:


Option 1: Never unplug the dock. When you leave your laptop sleeping, keep the dock and everything in it plugged. (This is useful if you won't be using it for a while, but not too long)


Option 2: Shut down your mac and unplug the dock. Plug it back in after you boot it up. (This is useful when you won't be using it for long, like when you go to sleep)


Option 3: Remove the dock, but never allow your MBP to sleep. (This is useful if you plan to undock, but keep using the laptop somewhere else for some period of time)


This issue occurs when the mac sleeps for a while (could be just a few minutes to a few hours) with the dock unplugged, and then you connect the dock to it. It doesn't happen if the mac never goes to sleep. And it will not happen if you power the mac after it was shut down (or restart it) and you connect the dock.


For example, when working at home I either plug the dock on the left or right side of the mac, depending on whether I have my work laptop on the desk, or not. At least once a day I swap the ports. The mac NEVER crashes when I do this, since it was awake when I unplugged and re-plugged the dock.


Having this information, I think you can avoid the crashes until Apple release a fix. Obviously this is highly inconvenient for such an expensive and new machine, but at least we can somewhat deal with it with these workarounds. I haven't had the crash since making this thread because I follow these steps. But I am very annoyed that I need to follow so many extra steps just to be able to use my laptop normally.


Hope this helps you and may the gods be favourable and grant us a fix.

Sep 15, 2020 7:18 PM in response to broko_fankone

I am having the same issue. I have a MBP2020 13" attached to CalDigit T3 Plus. The dock is connected to 2 external monitors, an audio interface, an external web camera, and an external mic. Occasionally, I would connect an external SSD to it.


When I first set up my CalDigit T3 Plus in July, every thing was working fine, and up powering on the CalDigit T3 Plus, it wakes my MBP and turns on everything. This has been the set up I ran since I purchase the items in July. However in Aug, when I power on my CalDigit as normal, I realized that my Audio Interface was not connected (via USB). I unplugged the cable to my MBP and my MBP crashed. However, upon restarting, everything was ok. I thought that this is a once-off issue but ever since the issue continued.


I thought it was the CalDigit issue and I contact CalDigit. They did some checks and told me that they will replace my unit. Upon receiving the new unit, I tried the set up again and it did not work. Contact CalDigit and they recommended me to contact Apple. I contact Apple and they changed my logic board. However, upon receiving my MBP (after 2 weeks), the issue was not resolved. I contact Apple and CalDigit again. Apple recommended that I factory reset my MBP but that did not help. CalDigit shared that it seems to be an issue related to a macOS Incompatibility issue. That is how I ended up here and also sharing my experience.


I am still waiting for a response from Apple since last week. I really hope something can be done to resolve this soon...

Sep 15, 2020 9:27 PM in response to ludacriz

True. However, I believe this is something that Apple maybe aware of but may not be a priority item to address on their list? I think they then not to conduct hotfix for such issues - unless we have greater outcry in the Apple community. But currently, I don't think there's a lot (in my observant). However, CalDigit is aware and I understand they have communicated it with Apple. In my email with CalDigit, they state:


"Therefore, we recommend to wait until Apple releases its new macOS version (Big Sur) later this year because the issue should be addressed in this new release. We cannot guarantee the issue will be solved right at the first release so therefore we advise to make sure your MacBook is running on the latest macOS version at all times."


MBP 13 2020 won't recognize USB devices from TB dock after sleeping and connecting to the dock. After unplugging the dock MBP crashes and does SMC reset

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