MBP 13 2020 won't recognize USB devices from TB dock after sleeping and connecting to the dock. After unplugging the dock MBP crashes and does SMC reset

Device: MBP 13" 2020 10th gen i5

Catalina 10.15.6

Dock: CalDigit TS3+ with firmware 44.1


I'm not sure if this problem is exclusive to Catalina 10.15.6, but I can't say since my dock arrived after the latest update got shipped and I haven't tried if it works on 10.15.5.


Basically, I unplug the dock at night and put the MBP to sleep. After a few hours of sleep it seems to stop recognizing the USB devices plugged into the dock. The dock has a USB audio interface, a logitech wireless dongle (for G604 mouse), a DP monitor and the power supply for the dock. When I plug it after the mac has been in sleep for hours, the mac won't recognize the audio card and the mouse (just the USB issue we had in previous catalina versions with all kinds of USB hubs and USB devices), but the monitor works and everything has power supplied to it, including the USB devices.

If I then unplug the dock and replug it, often the mac straight-up crashes completely and shuts down, powering on with an error that it recovered from a problem ( it also does an SMC reset).


The error report later states: "Intel CrashLog recorded due to unexpected reset".


This reddit thread speaks of the exact same issue with a different monitor and some people with different docks:

https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/i0m9si


Basically, what I'm saying is that the original USB issue is not fixed yet and now it's much worse because:

  1. You can't fix the USB problem unless you restart the mac - re-plugging the devices into the dock won't solve it
  2. The macbook directly crashes and does an SMC reset if you unplug/replug the dock, wiping your unsaved data and crashing anything else you might have open at the time


Additional problem: Monitor sometimes doesn't wake up at all after mac is awoken from sleep. At one point the monitor went to sleep WHILE I was using the mac actively.


I have tried NVRAM/SMC resets and they did nothing.


I wrote an email to CalDigit and they confirmed a lot of other users have complained about this:


"Our engineers have been investigating into the brand new 2020 MacBooks as we’ve had detailed reports from several of our customers who have tried many different brands of docks, from OWC, Kensington, Elgato and ours and none of them have been able to function correctly via the latest chipsets in these Macs."


PLEASE FIX the usb/dock/monitor issues already! This is a problem of Apple devices exclusively. This is unacceptable for a laptop at this price from the year 2020. Cheap off-brand laptops do not have such issues with peripherals!!

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Aug 4, 2020 11:01 AM

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Posted on Jan 16, 2021 2:25 PM

11.1 fixed it for me on my 2020 Intel MBA. I could reproduce it consistently every time before that version, and now I can't make it fail. It just picks up and keeps on going.


This is with multiple bits of TB hardware, too: a TB3 dock and an old Apple TB monitor. Both of them work, whether direct to the machine or with the monitor behind the dock.


It was bad, but it's over. Try it.

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Oct 2, 2020 1:36 PM in response to broko_fankone

Follow these steps and the MBP will ALWAYS crash:


  • Reboot
  • Connect the LG Ultrafine Monitor 27" or 24" via the Thunderbolt 3 Apple cable
  • Wake External USB Mouse works fine
  • Select Sleep at the menu bar, then disconnect the Monitor
  • Connect the LG Ultrafine Monitor 27" or 24"via the Thunderbolt 3 Apple cable
  • Wake from sleep, the external USB Mouse stopped working
  • Select Sleep at the menu bar, then disconnect the Monitor
  • Wait a few seconds and the MBP will crash


Oct 9, 2020 8:01 AM in response to logicito

Thank you. There is the difference. hhttps://www.diffchecker.com/hqhWoidB


More reasonable than the plain folder checksum, but still nothing obvious unfortunately. CTRL+F on 'thunderbolt' shows same versions of thunderbolt kexts, "AppleThunderboltEDMSink" seems to be missing on the older macOS - but that's all I could find about thunderbolt. But it may be caused by different kext of course or it may be totally different issue. I'm just thinking of kext, because those are kernel extensions and so essentially drivers for Mac HW.

Oct 22, 2020 3:34 PM in response to Dan Mønster

That is an absolutely horrific response. I’m glad to hear Big Sur seemingly fixes this. But anything short of an admission that this is an open bug without a solution is a slap in the face to the pro consumers who are spending their time helping to fix this. Not to mention a slap in the face as general customers. By the way, I’ve seen multiple people state that this is a MacBook Pro issue and that this may be a small drop in the bucket relative to the user base, etc. It appears that this is across all 2020 macs. My MacBook Air has this problem. iMacs are just less likely to be hot swapping.


I think I’m going to have to put in a call to Apple support. This, on top of the dire thermal constraints of my laptop, are really making me want to return this thing. I will happily buy an Apple Silicon machine.

Oct 27, 2020 1:25 PM in response to broko_fankone

Same problem here. 2020 MacBook Pro 13" (10th Generation Intel CPUs) running MacOS 10.15.7. I am using a Plugable TBT3-UDV Thunderbolt dock. I can reproduce the problem 100% of the time. Just unplug Thunderbolt cable from Mac, close the Macbook lid for 30 seconds (enough for a light sleep), open the lid, and re-plug Thunderbolt cable. None of the USB devices are recognized, and the Ethernet port is also not recognized. The two displays work perfectly, however. Rebooting the Mac restores USB and Ethernet connectivity. Alternatively, if I try to unplug and re-plug the Thunderbolt cable without performing a restart, the Mac crashes hard with the same error reported above: "Intel CrashLog recorded due to unexpected reset". I have a ticket open with Apple Support.

Nov 5, 2020 6:46 AM in response to broko_fankone

My new 2020 MBP does exactly the same with my Apple Thunderbolt display, all of the issues you mention:


  1. The Apple monitors built in hub doesn't work unless you reboot the MBP..... so I have to do this every time I come out of sleep.
  2. If I unplug the monitor and plug it back in again it often crashes and reports "Intel CrashLog recorded due to unexpected reset"


My old mid 2014 MBP doesn't have any of these issues.


I am using all Apple products, so thats an MBP, Apple Thunderbolt display, and Apple Thunderbolt 3 to 2 adaptor.... No third party equipment involved at all.



Nov 20, 2020 8:31 AM in response to broko_fankone

I'm on Big Sur and still having issues. Basically I start my day by rebooting and unplugging my dock to get my $2000 laptop to work....


I tend to disconnect at the end of the day and use my laptop without a dock then the following day I will connect to the dock. Most of the time it does not work. No kernel panics it just does not work until I reboot

Nov 30, 2020 12:36 PM in response to joost178

I updated to Big Sur hoping it would resolve the issues, as it apparently did for you.


Unfortunately the problem persists on Big Sur! My first impression is that it even got worse - today the MBP when re-opening after disconnecting from the TB3 monitor (LG Ultrafine 5k in my case) started wildly flickering showing occasional horizontal stripes of the desktop alternating with fully black screen. I had to reboot.

Dec 7, 2020 12:10 PM in response to erang27

Steps to reproduce:

  1. Boot (cold or warm, connect to TB3 Dock before or after booting- all variations apply)
  2. Put MacBook to sleep (software- Apple logo -> Sleep)
  3. Wait 1 minute
  4. Disconnect MacBook from dock
  5. Wait 5 minutes
  6. Connect MacBook to dock, which will wake it from sleep
    1. At this point System Report shows none of the connected Dock (USB and other) devices- for examples see SPUSBDataType and SPAudioDataType datatypes.
  7. Wait 1 minute
  8. Disconnect MacBook from dock
  9. Wait 5 minutes
  10. Connect MacBook to dock

Notes:

  1. MacBook sometimes crashes after step #8 (last disconnection), sometimes after #10 (last connection), occasionally crashes after 2-3 iterations (i.e. more than one sleep-disconnect-wake cycle).
  2. The 5-minute wait phases can typically be shorter.





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Dec 8, 2020 1:10 AM in response to erang27

It is abundandtly clear that you (and many others here) are right and that this is an Apple driver issue.


However, it does not seem Apple is doing anything to address the situation, or at least not enough.


For me, the observable symptoms have shifted a tiny bit with Big Sur, but essentially the problem remains - it is not possible to disconnect and reconnect my TB monitor (LG Ultrafine 5k) without a crash or at least external USB failure.


As a developer with access to their feedback assistant bugtracker (formerly "Radar") I filed this issue already back in October - but it is sitting there with no response with status "Resolution: open, Similar Reports: none" ever since.


What needs to happen that Apple officially takes notice and does something??

Dec 10, 2020 8:33 PM in response to mic3382

Something I haven't seen mentioned here:


Since I've been docking my MBP2020, which has been since I bought it (because lockdowns), I've experienced slowdowns from time to time. Today, I've had it slow multiple times. So instead of restarting the machine, which I normally do (foolishly believing that the slowdowns are caused by some program or tool that isn't completely optimized), I unplugged the dock and quickly plugged it back in before the machine could go to the Lock Screen. Funnily enough, it fixed the slowdown and just jittered its way through refreshing the multiple desktops.


I still suffer from severely laggy bluetooth response to my MXMaster3 either way, but the sluggishness and the slowdowns.... do they happen to anyone else?

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