No water, but detector is red - why?

My 6 month old iPhone 11 moisture indicator is red, but the phone has not been in water.


No love from Apple - just a $400 charge to buy a replacement phone.


Is there a way to determine if the phone is defective - perhaps it was not sealed correctly?


According to apple.com: "iPhone 11 is water resistant up to 2 meters for up to 30 minutes — double the depth of iPhone XR"

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Posted on Aug 10, 2020 6:37 PM

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Aug 10, 2020 6:53 PM in response to LARD1

Somehow some type of liquid got into your iPhone. It doesn't have to be water. Regardless, Apple will consider this liquid damage which is not covered under their standard 1-year hardware warranty ... unless an Apple Technician determines that the liquid got in due to a manufacturing defect. I suggest that you make a Genius Bar appointment at your local Apple Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider to have them take a look and provide you with your options.


Also, water resistant is NOT the same as water proof. Those tests were run under controlled conditions.

Aug 20, 2020 1:42 PM in response to LARD1

Measurements are made under ideal conditions, and must be more rigorous than every day use. If you took a new phone right out of the box and submerged it in distilled water as specified in IP67 it would pass. But once it has been used it will most likely no longer pass that test. In addition, steam has more penetrating power than water because it has lower surface tension.


As far as your 1000 iPhone example, based on the number of posts about water damage in these forums if 1000 phones were dropped in a toilet most likely all of them would fail.

Aug 20, 2020 1:12 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

Yes! That is exactly my point - why market the phone as resistant to sitting in 6 feet of water for half an hour if a bit of steam will destroy the phone? Why say things on the apple website indicating that only extreme use (like jet skiing) will damage the phone, when the reality is that normal use is also a problem?


Where does it say that it is recommended to leave the phone at home on foggy nights? What do people in San Francisco do?


And the biggest complaint - 1000 iPhones treated exactly the same does not lead to 1000 failures. It probably leads to 1or 2 failures, which clearly indicates something was wrong with that one iPhone. This is just logic.

Aug 10, 2020 6:54 PM in response to LARD1

As you clearly already know, water and other liquid damage is not covered by the warranty. (Although as noted in that article, you may, depending on where you are, have recourse to consumer protection laws.). That said, what have you got to lose by having the phone examined by Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider to determine whether, as you speculate, the moisture detector is not working correctly and/or whether there is any other evidence inside the iPhone that corroborates your position that it never got wet (or there's the detector's position that it did).


If the only alternative would be to get a replacement phone, seems like it's worth a closer exam. Also, depending on how you paid for the device, you may have recourse to your credit card or other payment-based purchase protection, since you're only 6 months into ownership. Some cut off after only 90 days, but there are other cards that offer to extend the warranty by as long as the original warranty, up to one year. Some cover damage, some only cover theft. It varies. And then, there's insurance. Some policies cover effects of certain kinds, some do not.


Good luck!


-- JDee


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