Email photo as attachment, not embedded, in iOS 14

Ok. I’ve asked, not just you but others, is there anything I can do, any adjustment I can make, to allow this process to work the way it used to on my Windows based Outlook? The answer clearly is “no.” So, is this change a defect? I will have to concede it is not. A defect is when a design doesn’t work at all, doesn’t do what it’s supposed to do. I think the program is doing exactly what Apple designers intended it to do. But it’s unfortunate for me that Apple’s change to one of its most popular phone features, makes it intensely frustrating to me and tens of millions of Outlook users.

So we won’t call it a “defect.” It is either a design blunder, or purposeful. To me it doesn’t matter which. The thing doesn’t work - for me - and the only thing I can do to fix it is buy a camera or a different phone. So I guess Apple and its defenders really showed me!

Tantalite wrote:

and the only thing I can do to fix it is buy a camera or a different phone. So I guess Apple and its defenders really showed me!

No, you can also install an email client that adheres to the worldwide email standard and use it when you need to download multiple images. As far as a different phone is concerned, I’m pretty sure Android works the same way.

I see. Stop using Outlook, which, you say without attribution, fails to follow a world wide standard. What is that standard? How can it be world wide if a client with enormous market share doesn’t, according to you, follow it? Or is as you put it in a tiny minority? I’ve asked many times to know what this colossal defect is, I never hear about it. I’m beginning to suspect this is just troll commentary. Prove my wrong by explaining why widely used windows email clients are in a tiny minority? Why did the work just fine before? And it was not downloading multiple images that it was the problem, it was a single image. Finally, as an owner of Mac products I doubt you know how an android would work.

Tell us what it is Outlook doesn’t do that almost all other clients do and, if you can, tell us how it’s somehow not Apples fault when everything worked fine griot to version 14.1? ‘Cause this is a board where people are supposed to offer solutions, not shill for a product.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

I have macs, and I use the Apple Mail app for some gmail accounts. It supports bulk image downloads.

No problem, Lawrence Finch.

I, also, have no current access to Windows machines. (However, I do have the GMail app on my iDevices, even though I, likewise, use Apple Mail to access my gmail accounts. [I’m not sure if I have it on any of my Macs, though.])

It’s interesting. I do occasionally use Outlook, and when I right click on an image I have an option to download the image. Both the app and office365 online. This thread is primarily about bulk downloads, that don’t work in Outlook; each image must be downloaded separately. But other posts confirm that you can download each image separately.

I need to attach a pdf file that has forms in it. In fact, I need to attach several multipage pdf files to an email. If these multipage documents are imbedded, then I am unable to send them as attached files that the recipient can dowmload to their computer.

I have just replaced Dell/Windows computer with mac mini after 30 years in Windows. Although Outlook was a pain, I should be able to send pdf attachments to clients from Mac Mail as files without having to open a browser to gmail or outlook.com.

Any suggestions? I've tried to configure image attachments as icons in Terminal with "defaults write com.apple.mail DisableInlineAttachmentViewing -bool yes", but that doesn't seem to help. If I attach the file in Gmail as a draft and then open Mail App in MacOS, the mail app has converted the attached pdf file to inline text. I can attach a large excel workbook, MS Word document, but when I try to attach a pdf file, it imbeds as inline text.

Finally, I've sent the file from iCloud account in Mac Mail app to outlook.com account. When I open Oultook.com mail in a browser, the attachment is not imbeded but when I initially open it in the browser, it is garbage. But, if I save the attachment to my Mac desktop as a pdf file and I can open it in Preview. Finally, I have verified that when I send pdf attachments to my windows laptop, my mail client (Outlook) shows them as attachments, but if they go to an apple device (Mac or iphone) then the pdf will already be converted to text.

Tried this with a 10 page document "saved as pdf" in MS Word on Windows and it does not imbed as text. Then I saved the same file as pdf from MS Word on Mac and it converts to text. So this artifact (feature) of imbedding the pdf as text seems to be restricted to pdf files created in MacOS.

It is very distracting to have a pdf attachment expand in my mail client on Mac. I don't have any idea what the email will look like for other mac recipients, but on my iphone it does expand and looks like text in the email.

Same here. So frustrating and dumb to change this. I thought devices were supposed to get smarter and easier to deal with, not the other way around.

This needs to be updated so users can choose whether to embed or attach in settings.

It sounds like you haven’t read any of the thread you posted to. But you can get a summary of it by reading the post by Halliday right above yours. The simple answer is that ALL PHOTOS IN EMAIL ARE ATTACHMENTS. There is no such thing as an “embedded” photo. But some email programs, Outlook specifically, choose to only display photo attachments in the body of the message. Most other email programs have an option to just download the images in addition to displaying them in the body. But Microsoft has decided not to support this capability.

I did read it, actually.

We can argue semantics all day, but it's clear many iPhone users are having the same issue despite above justifications about all docs being attachments.

All I know is that it used to work fine before I swapped from a 6S to an 11. My Outlook hasn't changed.

I download attachments from email messages all the time. About a dozen today, all sent from iPhones. And your Outlook has changed; it is updated pretty regularly. Try using a full-featured email client such as Thunderbird or the Gmail website.

as it is unlikely that Apple will change the way it handles image attachments if it is an important feature get the right tool for the job.

Lawrence Finch:

While “Outlook has changed; it is updated pretty regularly”, it (and its derivatives) appears to not have been updated at its fundamental MIME handling level since sometime before 2010, or so. 😏

I updated to iOS 14 yesterday and have the same issue. Please allow the same functionality as previous, or if it’s there, tell us how to use it.

Following for response from Apple/ A legitimate fix, I email probably 20-30 photos a day to my work email through my phone and not being able to email them as attachments is ridiculous...

dokigr:

Did you notice my reply to N-K-O, above, at https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251807601?answerId=254126172022#254126172022?