What is the red dot above cellular network bars on iPhone?

no. i get all three colors as well, and there is a definite difference between the orange and red dots. orange is mic and green is either just the camera or camera and mic together. the third dot, “RED” has yet to be identified other than to call us all colorblind or incompetent.

siri uses the mic, yes. but only using the mic to transmit necessitates the orange dot. does the icon turn red when something is using the mic to RECORD AUDIO TO STORAGE or possibly for stenographic (voice to text) purposes?

i think you may be right about my iphone, but the problem with my iphone isn’t a glitch or bug: it is internal, intentional, and possibly illicitly implemented, as it is starting to seem like an honest answer is not forthcoming. if you don’t know the answer to a question, don’t answer the question.

Who do you think you are?

Please show us a screen shot of your iPhone showing a red and orange dot. It is try that the orange dot will appear red with certain screen settings. This has been readily acknowledged. But yours is the first post I’ve seen where someone has claimed to see both. And if Apple was going to secretly and illegally record you why would they alert you to this?

you won’t even bother to read this whole thing, but maybe someone will get something out of it

i didn’t say, “apple”.

here are a couple examples out of context:

just because “godless” was distributed through the play store on android, doesn’t mean google wrote the code. they just unwittingly provided the vulnerability. and as far as that goes, ever hear of “triada”?

yes. i know these are droid references and have me affect on our much better iphones. i wouldn’t go back to droid even if apple started making them.

a groups of programmers went out and made moble operating systems. multiple os. droid. ios. ****, even palm and blackberry had a go at it. triada was an exploit in the original code put there deliberately. back door. droid: someone found it. windows is riddled with them. you would be a fool to believe that apple didn’t install a few as well. even the necessary ones, like for law enforcement as an example, if found, may be twisted to the dark side.

i know it’s just a little light in the top of my iphone. it really isn’t THAT big a deal. but that little red light is indicating something and it’s new. very new. and telling me that all of a sudden i’ve gone colorblind because i upgraded my ios is just as far fetched as a bunch of hackers finding a way to change the color of some pixels every time they record me every time i talk to the bank, my employer, my wife, or my mistress, to gain information that they can profit from. creditcards, secret squirrel business plans, or blackmail isn’t just in the movies, kid, and changing the color of a little orange light wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, because if you can hack that deep into ios and do it repeatedly, ego would be through the roof, to say the least.

who am i? im just an old man that wants to know why i have three different color indicator lights on my thousand dollar phone, when there are only supposed to be two. and i want to know why some punk is treating me like an idiot when i’m not the only person with this problem. first time i saw it, if i’d read your explanation and then never saw it again: i’d have bought it.

ok, maybe it was kinda orange.

but your trying too hard and too many answers have been either removed or “modified by the moderator” for me to believe that now. call me jaded. i call it realism.

probable - no

possible - yes. just entertain the idea that maybe there is a third light you don’t know about. you obviously have resources that we don’t. use them and investigate without being so pompous. you don’t know everything. learn something and then teach something. it’s how the world grows

screen shots? not likely. there is too much information hiding in the meta data and such for me to be foolish enough to upload a screenshot to a public forum. post your personal private email address and i’ll send you them directly. better yet. post your mobile iphone number and i’ll imessage them to you. or just post a screen shot, and i’ll extract both from it and then send them to you.

no. i don’t know how to do that, but i can extract your geolocation about 50% of the time and then i could just snail mail them to you.

TucsonTech wrote:

who am i? im just an old man that wants to know why i have three different color indicator lights on my thousand dollar phone, when there are only supposed to be two. and i want to know why some punk is treating me like an idiot when i’m not the only person with this problem. first time i saw it, if i’d read your explanation and then never saw it again: i’d have bought it.

Most of the senior members of this forum are over 60, some by decades. So, the fact that you're an "old man" means you're a lot like the rest of us. We are also all your fellow users, volunteering our time to help others. You may want to keep that in mind before coming in, guns ablazin' and accusing people of being rude to you.

TucsonTech wrote:

no. i get all three colors as well, and there is a definite difference between the orange and red dots. orange is mic and green is either just the camera or camera and mic together. the third dot, “RED” has yet to be identified other than to call us all colorblind or incompetent.

The red dot is the orange dot that displays as red with some background color settings.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

TucsonTech wrote:

no. i get all three colors as well, and there is a definite difference between the orange and red dots. orange is mic and green is either just the camera or camera and mic together. the third dot, “RED” has yet to be identified other than to call us all colorblind or incompetent.

The red dot is the orange dot that displays as red with some background color settings.

And to confirm this behavior, temporarily change the iPhone or iPad display coloring—the background image—to something that better contrasts with orange, and check the microphone indicator color again.

sue148 wrote:

How do I turn it off

How do you turn the red (or sometimes orange, depending on background color) dot off?

That'd usually involve ceasing use of an app which accesses the microphone.

The red (sometimes orange) indicator means some app has connected to the microphone.

Quitting that app should extinguish the red (sometimes orange) dot.

51kk wrote:

Ues how do i tirn it off and see all apps using

Don’t make phone calls or audio or video calls using any app and it will never appear.

you can see what app was using the mic most recently by opening the Control Center.

You can't turn it off!!!! It comes on while connected in a voice call/telephone call. It just lets you know that the microphone is in use. It has to hear you talk in order for it & the ppl on the other end can hear you speaking!!!!! Does that makes sense to you??? Whenever you speak to your phone it's the mic that goes hot & listens. The red dot indicates tat its I use!!!!!!! Don't get much simpler to understand!!!!!!!

cubbie50 wrote:

You explained an orange or green dot. What does a red dot mean? That your microphone and camera are NOT being used?

Thanks

Depending on he background the dot can appear orange or red. It is the same dot and if it appears orange OR red to you, it means the Microphone is being used.

I also have a RED dot appear and it’s not green or orange or sometimes orange or red with different backgrounds. It’s red. And when this red dot appears it’s usually when I’m trying to make a call and the call won’t actually go through or connect. I have watched it while making calls and it stays RED I have also noticed that if I’m in 4G area it may change to 3G and the call goes through. For me when the RED dot appears my calls don’t connect as they usually do.....

geneva146 wrote:

Hmmm. Perhaps that’s true I haven’t given it much thought tbh.

Trivial to prove that this is the case. Temporarily switch display backgrounds. If the display background won't contrast well with orange well, you'll see red.

And a typical phone call would not work well without a microphone in use on each end of the call, and a speaker on each end.

it means the app has had access to your microphone:)