Finder using too much memory

So I got my macbook air about a year ago, and it's not a problem at the beginning, until recent days, I found out that finder is eating up my ram, this image below, finder occupied 333 MB of ram, and that was right after I killed it, it ususally used up to about 1.5-2 gb of my ram especially while I'm running Adobe Premiere Pro and some other high ram usage applications, so I'm really confused what is wrong with it,


I tried all unique solutions on the internet, including resetting SMC/PRAM, change finder preferences, spam killing finder or even resetting spotlight index, none of them worked. So I'm really confused about why is it always taking over my ram space



And I have a further discovery, I found out that finder's ram usages are mainly about "com.apple.iconsservices.store", is it related to the problem I stated previously?

MacBook Air 13″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Sep 22, 2020 7:28 AM

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Posted on Sep 24, 2020 8:36 PM

optimizedwastaken wrote:
I hope you take this seriously instead of mocking me like I'm really dumb, it's not helping at all

I wasn't mocking you. I asked why you were concerned, and if your applications are not running properly, taking an excessive amount of time to perform tasks, etc., that's certainly cause for concern. But all you said was your RAM was being used, and my point was that RAM is there to be used. Macs do use RAM efficiently, although some always-on background applications are problematic (often ones like CleanMyMac or antivirus software).


As a comparison, looking at one of my MacBook Pros right now, I have Outlook, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote open and together they use more than the 8 GB of RAM your system has; with the many other apps also open the system is >13 GB of the available 16 GB, but the system doesn't lag at all. Just for kicks, I opened even more apps (Photoshop, DxO PhotoLab launched at the same time) and I was briefly able to push Memory Pressure into the yellow, but then macOS pushed it back down into the green and after that the total RAM usage was actually lower than just before opening those apps.



Incidentally, both the MacBook Pros I have open now show many instances of "com.apple.iconsservices.store" when inspecting Finder, so I suspect that's normal as my Finder instances are using <0.5 GB of physical RAM. But that brings up another point...physical RAM vs. virtual RAM.


As TheLittles highlighted, you have <7 GB free storage space on a 128 GB internal drive. That is not wise – and can be crippling. It best to have 20% of your internal storage free, 10% at a minimum and you have down near 5% free. Applications need swap space for temporary files, macOS needs space for caches and virtual memory – the latter is where those swap files go, among other things, and it's essentially the macOS using SSD space as accessory RAM (which it's always done, but now with SDDs instead of HDDs the access is fast enough that it's actually useful). Below are two processes, Finder (left) and Mail that together use only 0.55 GB of physical memory but use >10 GB of virtual memory – that's more than the available space on your SSD.



I suspect Adobe Premiere is trying to use more virtual memory than your SSD has available, and it's running into trouble.


As TheLittles recommends, clear some files off your SSD – move them to an external drive if you want to keep copies.

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Sep 24, 2020 8:36 PM in response to optimizedwastaken

optimizedwastaken wrote:
I hope you take this seriously instead of mocking me like I'm really dumb, it's not helping at all

I wasn't mocking you. I asked why you were concerned, and if your applications are not running properly, taking an excessive amount of time to perform tasks, etc., that's certainly cause for concern. But all you said was your RAM was being used, and my point was that RAM is there to be used. Macs do use RAM efficiently, although some always-on background applications are problematic (often ones like CleanMyMac or antivirus software).


As a comparison, looking at one of my MacBook Pros right now, I have Outlook, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote open and together they use more than the 8 GB of RAM your system has; with the many other apps also open the system is >13 GB of the available 16 GB, but the system doesn't lag at all. Just for kicks, I opened even more apps (Photoshop, DxO PhotoLab launched at the same time) and I was briefly able to push Memory Pressure into the yellow, but then macOS pushed it back down into the green and after that the total RAM usage was actually lower than just before opening those apps.



Incidentally, both the MacBook Pros I have open now show many instances of "com.apple.iconsservices.store" when inspecting Finder, so I suspect that's normal as my Finder instances are using <0.5 GB of physical RAM. But that brings up another point...physical RAM vs. virtual RAM.


As TheLittles highlighted, you have <7 GB free storage space on a 128 GB internal drive. That is not wise – and can be crippling. It best to have 20% of your internal storage free, 10% at a minimum and you have down near 5% free. Applications need swap space for temporary files, macOS needs space for caches and virtual memory – the latter is where those swap files go, among other things, and it's essentially the macOS using SSD space as accessory RAM (which it's always done, but now with SDDs instead of HDDs the access is fast enough that it's actually useful). Below are two processes, Finder (left) and Mail that together use only 0.55 GB of physical memory but use >10 GB of virtual memory – that's more than the available space on your SSD.



I suspect Adobe Premiere is trying to use more virtual memory than your SSD has available, and it's running into trouble.


As TheLittles recommends, clear some files off your SSD – move them to an external drive if you want to keep copies.

Sep 24, 2020 7:20 PM in response to optimizedwastaken

optimizedwastaken Said:

"Finder using too much memory: Memory: 8GB 1600 Mhz DDR3[...] Hard drive: total 128GB, Remaining 6.85GB, mainly occupied by some large raw unedited game footages/anime raws.[...]"

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Why you need to do:

Avoid Multitasking (IOW: running many things at once) and extremely-empty your Hard Drive. To get around this "need", consider the following.


  • Rid of unneeded items(photos, media, etc)

6.85GB remaining would heat up your hard drive, as the dual core processor would need to work to its maximum.


  • Avoid Multitasking:

Seems good enough RAM for basic, everyday use usage - but 8GB is not proficient enough for multitasking high-end apps. Multitasking is running many things at once. So, uninstall any Security Software, as it will be running in the background as you perform items.


  • Avoid Streaming:

If you were to watch movies or play games - then only use one at a time. For my lower-end Mac, I have the same about of data - 8GB of RAM and 128GB hard drive - no Security Software - and when I'm using it - its only one Application at once that I am running (i.e. iTunes to a Projector)


If it were High-End:

My other Mac has 32GB of RAM, and 1TB of hard drive space. I run Virtual Machines on it - 32GB is highly-proficient for multitasking and gaming.

Sep 24, 2020 6:07 PM in response to neuroanatomist

Can I ask why Windows system doesn't have this problem nor when I just began use it? Stop claiming that mac using RAM very efficiently, when finder uses up to like 2 gb of my 8gb ram in total, where premiere pro occupied only 1.3 gb! On my broken Windows computer, it ususally uses up to 5-6 gb while running normally without slow preview rendering. If my mac is normal then why would I create this thread? On this mac, it takes about half a minute to render a preview part with a simple text graphic, I can tell it's definitely not normal


Now I have so solve the problem, instead of getting complained by some people claiming that macOS is smart at using RAM, I can tell you it's not! I have to use this for all my school work and projects while my broken Windows pc is getting fixed. Speak of school project, I can't run any webiste that requires high RAM (e.g Bandlab, Incredibox, Google Drive or even Youtube), especially while I'm in online class meetings, and I have no idea what's going on when I saw Finder eating up my entire RAM with 2gb of usage and all google chrome and helpers processes added up not more than 1.5 gb. I knew some other people also said that check activity monitor memory pressure, I don't know if activity monitor is giving the right numeral data, but I did experience a hard time using other applications besides Finder.


I hope you take this seriously instead of mocking me like I'm really dumb, it's not helping at all

Sep 24, 2020 6:27 PM in response to babowa

MacBook Air (13-inch, 2017)

Processor: 1.8 Ghz Dual-Core Intel Core i5

Memory: 8GB 1600 Mhz DDR3

Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 6000 1536MB

Hard drive: total 128GB, Remaining 6.85GB, mainly occupied by some large raw unedited game footages/anime raws.

No T2 chip installed


That's exactly the problem, however, chrome/PR doesn't seems to use many memory. instead, most of them are occupied by Finder with absolutely no reason, I set finder to not display all files, however it's still taking over all my ram space, and I didn't even touched it.


Yes I do have cleanmymac, because I heard it it's pretty good, but I know what you are gonna say, it's a completely waste of space and sometimes used up my Storage/RAM as well, I am planned to uninstall it.


Please insert a link bringing me to Etrecheck, thank you very much!


Also, my Windows pc does have 24GB RAM in total, in which my mac only have 8GB, does that mean actually it's my macbook ram space not enough to perform?

Sep 28, 2020 5:37 AM in response to babowa

Thank you for your help, yes I did realized that my hardrive/memory space is actually not enough for running latest OS/any kind of other software, because this mac was simply for backup computer/video editing before I broke my Window PC's screen, now I have to use it for everything, even sometimes playing games. So I wasn't planned to use this for a long time since lockdown is almost over and I can send my Windows PC for repairment now, but I'll go with your solution anyways.



Also, I have another concern,


As shown above, unexpectedly, most of my hard drive space are occupied by a unremoveable and inaccessible category called "Other" I wonder how can I clean that up?

Sep 24, 2020 6:17 PM in response to optimizedwastaken



So you have a Macbook Air. What are the exact specs? How much RAM do you have? How much hard drive space (total and how much of it is available)?


For one thing, Chrome is a known resource hog on Macs. It can eat all the RAM and CPU processing power for breakfast. Adobe isn't much better. Are you running any cleaning apps or AV apps?


And, yes, do look at the memory pressure in Activity Monitor. Also, download and run Etrecheck, either from the developer or the app store. Post it here using the third little icon from the right in the tool bar.


Sep 24, 2020 9:15 PM in response to optimizedwastaken

Okay, if you want to download it directly from the developer, I can post the link (you can just do a search in the app store if you want):


www.etrecheck.com


Just use the free version, run it, and post it here.


And, yes, you have an extremely small drive, so you need to be cautious with how many things you store there. And, 8 GB RAM is considered a minimum to run the latest OS; I would not have less than 16 GB. Adobe likes a lot of RAM as well.


And, CleanMyMac is not worth having. As well, Catalina has some new safety features: your OS and system are now "quarantined" on a separate volume (Macintosh HD) which is now read only - otherwise it is not accessible. Your user folder, apps, and other folders are separate in the Macintosh HD - Data volume which is read/write. So, your CMM cannot even access the OS/system which makes it pretty much useless.

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