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when I enter a location for a picture, Photos changes it to a different location

When I enter a location for a picture, e.g. "38.007949, -122.487170" in the info panel in Photos, the location that ends up being stored is a different one, sometimes several miles away from what I enter. Every location anywhere in San Rafael, California, gets changed to the location of San Rafael City Hall. Locations in San Francisco, are changed to Twin Peaks in San Francisco.


For me, Photos started behaving this way a couple of days ago (October 2020); previously Photos would just store whatever location I entered. Is anybody else seeing this?


MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Oct 10, 2020 8:10 PM

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Oct 11, 2020 7:18 PM in response to fkainz

Totally, I have a Foretrex 601 that saves a gpx file. After I import into Photos, I launch HoudahGeo, select the images I want to use, drop the .gpx file into Houdah geo.


In fact, the images I did yesterday had a really screwed up camera clock: Wrong time zone and a lot of drift. In HoudahGeo, I used an image I took of the clock on my Foretrex, and it readjusted all the times for Photos.

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Oct 11, 2020 12:57 AM in response to TonyCollinet

Done a bit more investigation. You can put in the same coordinates numerically and get different results


51.0 0.009800 gives the English channel

However, 51 0.009800 gives "no results"


and

51 0.0098 gives somwhere in Turkey.


I suspect it is not putting the coordinates on a map, and then finding the place - I'm guessing it must have a huge lookup table of places and their coordinates, and is messing up the interpretation of the numbers for the lookup, or the table itself is broken.


Oct 11, 2020 6:28 AM in response to TonyCollinet

I can confirm this problem. The pin on the tiny location map is in the wrong position, moved to the center of the city.

  • I enter 37.580627 -122.324113
  • and when I read the coordinates back from the photo with AppleScript, they have been changed to 37.547541 -122.314571

And the photos will be exported with the wrong GPS coordinates, many miles off.

This is a disaster.

It seems, we should not use Photos for geocoding, for the time being.


Oct 11, 2020 7:52 AM in response to léonie

I just tested on several Macs: The same problem persists on the Macs with macOS 10.14.6 Mojave as well, not only on my Mac with macOS 10.15 Catalina. So it seems to be more a problem with Apple's location database than with the current catalina update.

When I assign this place: -54.63698 -67.764359 (Lago Escondido, close to Ushuaia, Argentina), Photos will move the pin into the center of the South Pacific Ocean and change the GPS coordinates accordingly to -24.8915 -136.5752054. That is nearly 30° farther north and 60° farther west. The entered GPS coordinates are discarded and lost, unless I copy them to the description field.

Oct 11, 2020 8:16 AM in response to TonyCollinet

There are several ways. The quick and easy way is the feedback form. Feedback - Photos - Apple

Or, if you want to file a detailed bug report, with attachments and test samples, you need a free developer account. It is worth it, see: Detailed and Effective Bug Reporting | Apple Support Communities


Or, if you are a Beta tester or seed tester, you can use the Feedback Assistent:


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Oct 11, 2020 7:18 PM in response to fkainz

Totally, I have a Foretrex 601 that saves a gpx file. After I import into Photos, I launch HoudahGeo, select the images I want to use, drop the .gpx file into Houdah geo.


In fact, the images I did yesterday had a really screwed up camera clock: Wrong time zone and a lot of drift. In HoudahGeo, I used an image I took of the clock on my Foretrex, and it readjusted all the times for Photos.

Oct 12, 2020 7:17 AM in response to Stephan-S

Keep sending feedback to Apple, so it will be fixed, when Big Sur is released. It is strange, that suddenly all my Macs with all system versions, plus the iPhone and the iPad are having problems with the Places in Photos. It looks like the central servers with the location names are causing the problems, not the current Catalina update.


Oct 12, 2020 7:23 AM in response to Keith Barkley

Keith, may I ask you a question? I am also relying heavily on HoudahGeo for entering the metadata before importing photos to Photos. But I am still having HoudahGeo 5. It keeps nagging me to upgrade to version 6. Is the upgrade worth the money? I tested the free trial, but the new features cannot be tested fully. As version 5 is still working well, I would prefer to wait for the Big Sur Release before deciding to upgrade or not.


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