Using the lightning to usb-c cable to drive an external display

I see the iPad pro can be connected to a display using a standard USB-C [at both ends] cable.


I also see there is a lightning-to-USB-C cable being offered now. My question is: Can this be used to connect the other iPads (not Pro) to a USB-C display as well, or do I need to use a USB-C to HDMI adapter to complete the connection? I did look at KB articles and lots of help pages, but this specific issue was not mentioned.


[edit to update] Here's the article for this cable. It doesn't mention connecting to a display is possible, but it also does not say it's NOT possible. They should say one way or the other. It seems like, if it's possible with the iPad Pro, it should be possible with other ipads using this cable, otherwise why go through all the effort of making this special cable?


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205807

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Posted on Nov 2, 2020 11:17 PM

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Posted on Nov 3, 2020 2:59 AM

No. A Lightning to USB-C cable cannot be used to connect the Lightning port of an iPad to the USB-C connection of an external monitor - at least, not with the intention of using the display of the attached monitor. Read on...


The Lightning to USB-C cable is intended to connect either:

a) a newer model Power Adapter, with a USB-C connector, to the iPad for charging purposes.

b) the USB-C port of a newer PC or Mac computers, to an iPad that has a Lightning port, for synchronising using iTunes/Finder.


If your intention is to connect an iPad with a Lightning port to an external monitor, you must use the Lightning to Digital AV Adapter - and connect using an HDMI cable:


Lightning Digital AV Adapter

https://store.apple.com/uk/xc/product/MD826ZM/A


The 2018/2020 models of iPad Pro - and the new 2020 iPad Air - are able to connect with some external monitors using a direct USB-C connection; if so connected, the iPad drives the attached monitor using the DisplayPort protocol. Alternatively, USB-C equipped models of iPad can connect to a TV or monitor using the appropriate Digital Media Adapter and HDMI:


USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter

https://store.apple.com/uk/xc/product/MUF82ZM/A


I hope this clarification is helpful in resolving any misunderstanding of connection capabilities of your iPad.

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Nov 3, 2020 2:59 AM in response to augratin

No. A Lightning to USB-C cable cannot be used to connect the Lightning port of an iPad to the USB-C connection of an external monitor - at least, not with the intention of using the display of the attached monitor. Read on...


The Lightning to USB-C cable is intended to connect either:

a) a newer model Power Adapter, with a USB-C connector, to the iPad for charging purposes.

b) the USB-C port of a newer PC or Mac computers, to an iPad that has a Lightning port, for synchronising using iTunes/Finder.


If your intention is to connect an iPad with a Lightning port to an external monitor, you must use the Lightning to Digital AV Adapter - and connect using an HDMI cable:


Lightning Digital AV Adapter

https://store.apple.com/uk/xc/product/MD826ZM/A


The 2018/2020 models of iPad Pro - and the new 2020 iPad Air - are able to connect with some external monitors using a direct USB-C connection; if so connected, the iPad drives the attached monitor using the DisplayPort protocol. Alternatively, USB-C equipped models of iPad can connect to a TV or monitor using the appropriate Digital Media Adapter and HDMI:


USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter

https://store.apple.com/uk/xc/product/MUF82ZM/A


I hope this clarification is helpful in resolving any misunderstanding of connection capabilities of your iPad.

Nov 3, 2020 4:58 AM in response to augratin

USB isn’t just fancy electrical connector. USB, as a technology, is a much more complex system architecture.


The USB architecture requires a USB Host Controller and Root Hub to be present on the “host” device. A simple “cable” connection does not provide these active components.


iOS/iPadOS devices with a Lightning connection do not have a built-in USB Host Controller and Root Hub. The charging cable merely provides an electrical connection between your iPad and Power Adapter. However, when connecting your iPad to a PC/Mac computer, the computer (the “host”) has the required USB Host Controller and Root Hub with which to communicate with the connected iPad/iPhone.


When using an iPad or iPhone as a host device, it is therefore necessary to add the Controller components - and this is the significance of the Lightning to USB3 Camera Adapter.


The Camera Adapter is the key to connecting a Lightning equipped iPad or iPhone to other USB devices. The Adapter actively converts the proprietary Apple Lightning interface into a USB host device - and provides the USB Host Controller and Root Hub that are necessary to connect with (and control) USB accessories.


Prior to the introduction of USB-C, USB connections always had a Type-A connection for connecting the “host” device (i.e., the Host Controller) and a Type-B connector for the device being controlled (noting that Type-B connections where physically different to Type-A - and have evolved from Type-B through mini-B and micro-B).


USB-C connections (and system architecture) have again evolved. The physical connectors are now double-sided and bi-directional - and may have the same connector at both ends. Without delving into the complexities of USB-C (of which you’ll find many resources to research yourself), this is probably sufficiently adequate in context of your question.


So, to conclude, your iPad requires the addition of a USB Host Controller and Root Hub with which to communicate/control other USB devices - this functionality being provided by the Lightning to USB3 Camera Adapter.


I hope this description and clarification proves to be helpful - both explaining the USB functionality and requirements in basic language.

Nov 3, 2020 4:46 AM in response to LotusPilot

Thanks. I am already using those somewhat clunky dongles with my current iPad. I was hoping the lightning-USBC cable was being sold for a reason other than simply for charging.


Checking out the iPad Air specs, it looks like I would still need the adapter for that too:


Video mirroring and video out support: Up to 4K through USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter and USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter (adapters sold separately)


https://www.apple.com/ipad-air/specs/


I think I'll just continue to make do with my current iPad models since they are only about 18 months old.

Nov 3, 2020 5:20 AM in response to LotusPilot


iOS/iPadOS devices with a Lightning connection do not have a built-in USB Host Controller and Root Hub.


Exactly my point. Why bother making a special lightning-to-USBC cable if the legacy lightning-to-USB cable will do the same thing? They both have lightning connections to the iPad, and therefore have the same limitations.


In other words, what improvement will I see with my iPad (last year's model) by discarding my legacy lightning-to-USB cable and using the new lightning-to-USBC cable? What's the reason for buying this cable? What will I be able to do that I couldn't already do before?

Nov 3, 2020 5:49 AM in response to augratin

Returning to my original response, the Lightning to USB-C cable is intended to connect either:

a) a newer model Power Adapter, with a USB-C connector, to the iPad for charging purposes.

b) the USB-C port of a newer PC or Mac computers, to an iPad that has a Lightning port, for synchronising using iTunes/Finder.


The new cable substitutes the USB3 Type-A plug for a USB-C plug - this being suitable for use with newer Power Adapters/Computers that have deprecated physical Type-A for the more compact USB-C connections.

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