Turn off volume turned down on iPhone

Hi,


A couple of days back I’ve updated to iOS 14.2, and last night, as I was having a headache, decided to fall asleep to some music. IEMs on, music on, relaxing, third track, close to falling asleep, baaam! no more music. I’m checking my DAC/AMP, apparently, music was still playing. I’m checking my iPhone, volume dropped to half with a notification about volume being turned down to protect my hearing.... I’m turning volume up, and trying to fall asleep again. Two track later, baaaam! no music again, volume down to half again. Thanks Apple for not helping!

@Apple, you are aware that not everyone’s using your Pods. Some of us are using our phone as a music source, feeding digital signal to a DAC/AMP, and we control volume at AMP level. How do you calculate SPL without knowing my AMP's specs and settings, IEMs sensitivity and impedance?

When you implemented this ‘hearing protection’, what did you think?

    • We know better than our customers how music volume should be controlled, feeding 4-bit depth to a DAC is just fine!
    • We are aware that some of our customers use external DAC/AMP and this 'feature' will affect them, we just don’t care!
    • None of the above/nothing.


iPhone has been my music source since 3Gs came out, but this... is, by far, the biggest disappointment.

I know Apple won’t bother to answer, but I also know that music playback is half of my iPhone usage, and the other half can be handled just fine by a dumb phone, so, all good!



P.S.: one of the reasons I’m using an external DAC/AMP is having a better volume control with hardware buttons/volume wheel. Yes, iPhone has volume buttons also, but, for me, with the Lightning to 3.5mm adapter, only the first 4 volume steps are usable, 5th is already to loud, and 1st is too loud if I’m listening before falling asleep.




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Posted on Nov 16, 2020 1:24 PM

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Posted on Jan 20, 2021 3:14 AM

Go to Settings > Screen Time > Content & Privacy Restrictions > Reduce Loud Sounds


Is it marked Allow? If it is mark Don't Allow


Then go to Settings > Sounds & Haptics > Headphone Safety > Turn off Reduce Loud Sounds if turned on

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Jan 20, 2021 12:36 PM in response to skitfish

I made a Shortcut that fills up the Health app with bogus -1000 dB measurements 1 week into the future to mess with this safety "feature" and not let it figure out that it should lower the volume: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/8a1ec923fdb240a69a083cf5147eb57c


For some reason it doesn't work 100%, still lowers the volume like once a day when on max volume, but that's still miles better than every 30-ish minutes.


Just make sure to run it every 7 days (or set up an automation).


Attached screenshot from the Health app.

Jan 22, 2021 3:10 PM in response to TaToTaKo

Installed iOS 14.4 RC, using a Bluetooth audio device the volume is no longer turned down when you exceed the limits, but by default you still get annoying notifications.

You can however set the device type to something other than Headphone in the Bluetooth device settings (only tried the "Other" device type so far) and you no longer get the notifications. Woo!

Not sure how wired headphones or speakers work.

Dec 2, 2020 11:43 PM in response to cjguiser

It absolutely does help. I have not had the volume lowered on me once, since I’ve been covering the mic grill with Blu-Tack. This is with the iOS volume slider at maximum, and the phone in close proximity to the speakers.


Without blocking the mic, the volume notification is received and the volume is turned down on 100% of occasions (with the same volume settings, phone-speaker proximity, speaker volume, and specific music tracks playing) after a few minutes.

Jan 21, 2021 4:33 AM in response to just-petri

Do not follow @xJui instructions, they are nonsense. As most others here, he doesn't understand the distinction between "Reduce loud sounds" feature (which is optional) and "Headphone safety notifications" (which aren't). Both are used to limit maximum loudness.


  • Reduce loud sounds can be set by a parent to limit how loudly can their children listen to music, because children are incompetent to take responsibility for their lives.
  • Headphone safety notifications are used by Apple to limit how loudly can their customers listen to music, because Apple customers are incompetent to take responsibility for their lives.


In short, you can reduce loud sounds, but you are always working with a maximum set by Apple in their headphone safety notifications. You can set your own limit even lower, you can disable your own limit entirely, but you can't cross the threshold set by Apple. It's like when EU tells it's countries they are free and can make their own laws, but those countries can only make laws that follow EU laws. Same with Apple. Hope this clears up the confusion.

Dec 11, 2020 8:02 AM in response to just-petri

...and the release notes for iOS 14.3 don't mention any changes to this new "feature" (cough. handicap)

This is a deal breaker for me, extremely disappointed in Apple. Again, the disappointments keep adding up for me. They're treating us like dumb toddlers, making irreversible choises for us, taking away features that were present when we purchased the phone. If I knew they were up to this, I'd never have purchased an iPhone.

I'm going to have to sell my iPhone second hand, and go back to Android.


Apple is plain wrong in thinking that everybody strictly uses their Apple earbuds. Many people connect their phone to an amplifier, either in the car, or at home, or any soundsystem.

When you connect any audio-source to an amplifier, you need to make sure your output signal is as hot as possible, in order to have a good SNR (=signal-to-noise ratio). Any circuitry has a so called "noise floor". The DAC circuitry (Digital-to-Analog Converter) of the iPhone is quite good (in comparison with cheaper phones). But only when you make use of the full range dynamics of the DAC.

If your audio source (iphone) outputs only a weak signal, then you need a lot more amplification to reach the desired SPL (sound pressure level) in your sound system. Amplifying a weak signal, means amplifying the noise floor too. So the SNR (signal to noise ratio) gets a lot worse, resulting in poor audio dynamics. Amplifying a hot signal (max output) makes sure you can retain the full dynamics of the DAC, as intended by the designers of the DAC circuitry.

This is basic audio engineering knowledge. Apple engineers should know it, but they choose to intentionally ignore the people who don't listen to headphones. Also those who do listen to headphones, now have a very mediocre experience, because the available dynamics (difference between noisefloor and loudest audio peaks) are severely reduced.

With these new mandatory Apple iphone limitations, you have to limit yourself to 80dB if you want to listen more than a few hours a week, which is ridiculously low.


I work in the concert industry, I work continuously with dB levels. I'm going to tell you what makes people deaf. It's not the music through the speakers (if your not so dumb to stand directly in front of the FOH speaker stack). Its people shouting in your ear the whole evening/night, when making conversations. Most studies about concert dB levels don't take this into account. 80dB for music is ridiculously low... In concert situations, and in earbuds.


So people, vote with your wallet. And send Apple feedback, they don't monitor these user forums.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

Dec 11, 2020 2:28 PM in response to Samuel1983

Hi Samuel, we all share your frustration, but Apple is NOT listening here, this is just a user forum where users help other users.

It is essential that you address Apple here: https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

If you know other people who find this so-called "feature" highly irritating, please encourage them to send feedback too.

The louder the voices, the more chance they will listen and give us a slider to disable this atrocity, burried deep down in the settings.

Dec 17, 2020 4:26 AM in response to johannesvonhavnnes


johannesvonhavnnes wrote:

Is that a permanent fix or just a temporary one?


Temporary, you have to do this everytime you hit the 7-day limit.

So let's say you cranck it up to 90dB, then you reach your weekly listening limit in 4 hours.

When you listen at 100dB you've only got 24 minutes, 110db: 2 minutes until you need to deep dive in health menu for a reset.

So: basically unusable. This issue turned my iPhone into a very expensive door stop. A door stop that allows me to make phonecalls, you got to give 'em that, very multi functional. Ordered a droid now, which also have warnings but at least they allow you to override it permanently in the settings (activate developer mode).

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