FORCED BACKUP OF ALL FILES TO ICLOUD WITHOUT EXCEPTION??

Question: I would greatly appreciate ANY solutions that would solve what I have attempted for many years. Each option such as to "Optimize Photo Library" are ALL DESIGNED TO MOVE FILES TO ICLOUD. CHA-CHING! Every prior solution in past years was never answered which means the Apple Community has acquiesced to storing all of their digital information at a server farm at God Knows Where. Thus without Internet access or a national emergency, all of your data is gone. Users should have a choice without that choice being to NOT have use of their hardware they purchased, not leased!

Below is an example of constant options to move files to iCloud


As a photographer, I can't set up a method on my MAC (have plenty of storage) to keep even one photo shoot available for me to do post processing ---- with each photo stored on my hard drive and automatically copied to iCloud. Storing them on an external device results in long delays in transferring the large files that are automatically saved but with a delay due to them not being loaded into memory and transferred to a solid-state hard drive. Any attempt to load them on to my Mac's hard drive (without the ability to prevent the file from being copied to iCloud) will result in my receiving a notice on all of my devices to "upgrade" my iCloud storage.

So what am I missing?

Thank you!

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 11.0

Posted on Nov 30, 2020 4:26 PM

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Nov 30, 2020 5:52 PM in response to rossguy

Users should have a choice without that choice being to NOT have use of their hardware they purchased, not leased!
Below is an example of constant options to move files to iCloud

You do have a choice. To use a more suitable product for your needs.


iCloud is not right for all needs. If off device storage is what you need, iCloud is not the right solution for you.





Dec 21, 2020 4:22 AM in response to LACAllen

One shouldn’t claim an absolute without being absolutely certain. 


  You say:  “Only iCloud backups were left not encrypted. They are not the same thing.


Really?  That’s your justification?  Backups don’t really matter? Backups are just EVERYTHING THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS.  


I have 15-30 digit passwords and 2FA—and my iCloud is completely and utterly hacked.  So is every single one of my Apple devices connected to it.   I am working every day with Apple, my telco and my ISP provider to get to the bottom of it, and it is arduous.


It’s hard to listen to Apple bigots spout stuff like “Apple is 100% perfect in every way and it’s systems are absolutely impenetrable”. 


That is both naive and blatantly untrue.   Apple is just a tad more secure than others. That’s it. 


And if by “social engineering” you mean “hacking,” well then, you just neutered your own claim about the sanctity of Apple’s 2FA. 


Hackers gonna find ways in. .  


And telling a guy who’s questioning Apple’s forced iCloud backup practice that if he doesn’t like it he should back it up himself... well that’s just an ornery. .  


Apple’s decision NOT to encrypt these enforced backups is a massive betrayal of its customer base.   What it’s doing is harvesting every last byte of personal data it possibly can through forced backups snd then leaving it barely civered sit a sheer cloth. and that could easily be construed as Apple deciding to become a passive, but willing participant in data theft.  What Apple is doing with unencrypted backups is wrong on every level.  


Apple can easily afford to encrypt every single byte of data those forced backups vacuum up to its cloud servers.


But most Apple customers will not be able to suffer a loss or compromise of their personal, private data.   This conscious decision by Apple to not encrypt backups is an invitation to a data feeding frenzy on its customer’s privileged data—because that is what’s in a backup is—contacts, emails, text messages, photos, social security numbers, bank statements, babies birth dates, uncles who were just diagnosed with thyroid cancer 


How could you actually believe that THAT kind of data is less important than a network password when THAT kind of data is the very reason we have network passwords in the first place???c And THAT kind of data—backup data— is what sells not network passwords themselves.  


Apple should be encrypting absolutely everything.   No excuses. 


Nov 30, 2020 5:08 PM in response to rossguy

Rossguy,


Same here. I’m fact the cloud takes all of my photos and anything else it wants without my permission. Apple support disavows all knowledge of this.


JSYK, the iCloud has not been encrypted for several years. I don’t know if photos are encrypted at the device level of not, but I know files like Notes, Pages, and Contacts are not, so they get stored in iCloud in human-readable format. You may want to verify whether or not photos are encrypted, since you are a photographer and both security and copyrights are important for your livelihood.


Apple support has informed me that only text messages and mail are encrypted at the device level-—but that’s it! Supposedly, when text messages and mail arrive in the cloud, they’ve already been encrypted by the device that uploaded them. But your photos are a different story and Nat be at risk since the iCloud itself is no longer encrypted.


In January of 2020, Reuters announced that, several years ago, the FBI forced Apple into agreeing to stop encrypting the iCloud—otensibly to catch terrorists and such. However, that means that any decent hacker can access anyone’s iCloud account and put some nasty code in a user’s backup, later to be downloaded to their device as part of a refresh.

IMHO, this is a high risk and rather nasty known and standing security exposure.

(Google “Reuter’s + iCloud + encryptions + 2020”)

Nov 30, 2020 5:58 PM in response to HoneyHoneyHoney

In January of 2020, Reuters announced that, several years ago, the FBI forced Apple into agreeing to stop encrypting the iCloud—

iCloud backups. Not iCloud.


Only iCloud backups were left not encrypted. They are not the same thing.


Use a strong password and 2FA and your risk is near zero. No Apple account protected by 2FA has been compromised without social engineering or a trusted device theft.


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