NEW MacBook Air M1 8gb 256gb: "your system has run out of application memory"

Just about daily, my new M1 MacBook Air starts to run warm (thought they were SO much cooler now) and then I get a popup to ForceQuit my applications with the message, "your system has run out of application memory" (and showing me that Safari is using the most memory by far). In fact, I checked the RAM usage and its showing 6.3gb out of 8gb. Im wondering is this simply a RAM issue and I should return/exchange for the 16gb model?

Funny enough, my 4 month older MBA 2020 never crashed like this (though it ran scorchingly hot which is why I bought the new M1 to replace it).


Only apps Im running when this happens are: WhatsApp, iMessages, Safari (with LastPass/Rakuten/Honey extensions). Safari has about 15 tabs open, which is nothing for my 10 year old iMac, or the prior MacBooks, so cant imagine its too taxing for this new M1 MacBook?

MacBook Air 13″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Nov 30, 2020 10:30 PM

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Posted on Mar 20, 2021 7:42 AM

I had a mid 2014 MacBook Pro with soldered in 8 gb Ram, 512 gb HD storage. I was getting this same "your system is running out of application memory". I purchased the MacBook Air with 16 gb & 1 TB . I used my Time Machine back up of the 2014 MacBook Pro to migrate all my files and applications over to the new one. I then downloaded Big Sur.

I had seen so many videos on YouTube showing people running many programs and tabs in Safari. Almost immediately I got the error as above to my shock. I called Apple a few times but the best advise was from the first representative I spoke too. Re-install Big Sur without deleting everything.

It worked great and I have not had the problem again. I watch my Memory pressure on the Activity Monitor right now I am running PS, LR, Safari with ten tabs and Firefox with six tabs, Ibooks , iTunes , Messages, Calendar , Apple Mail and others and the memory pressure is low. Right now the Memory is 11.81 gb (out of 16 gb) and this machine is lightening fast. I use Topaz filters and they operate swiftly. I re-boot every few days and the initial memory is reduced to 6 gb. I am very happy with this machine. It still has a few bugs, my SpyderPro5 keeps saying it is not running but is. To get my Topaz and Nik plugins to work in PS I have to go through Bridge. Topaz customer service says they are working on fix and will have it shortly. Adobe also says they are working on fixes. Hope that helps.

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Dec 2, 2020 10:08 AM in response to ewl930

Thanks for sharing.

Its most certainly an optimization issue given the new M1 requires essentially all-new code from developers who haven't yet caught up. I think the MacBook is compensating by swapping memory with the drive and running out of space too quickly. Its new tech and its fully expected to have some issues, I have no qualms about being an early adopter. However, what isn't expected is Apple betraying their early adopters and biggest fans who took a chance and bought these first and have dozens of other apple products. I literally upgraded from a 4mo old MacBook Air Retina.


So, the final chapter: I wrapped up with a final call yesterday & the Apple reps response to me (Im paraphrasing), "well this seems just an inconvenience for you & seems you likely need more memory for this issue to not happen or happen less often. Thats just your preference and the MacBook isn't broken or defective (even though it crashes all the time). As such, Apple cant help and we recommend returning your machine and buying the more expensive model with more RAM and a larger SSD and seeing if that helps."


I told them I only use Safari, not talking Photoshop or anything heavy and this never happened on an older machine which was supposedly far less powerful. Didn't matter. Apple's response: "well then it seems like you like to keep too many tabs open and should buy an upgraded Mac with more power". Um, my 4mo old MBA runs Safari just fine with no such issues...


This is not what I expect from Apple. As a longtime fan who recommends their stuff to all friends and family Im taking a very serious new look at them and their new policies. The main reason I stuck with Apple all this time despite the premium price was exceptional customer service and top notch hardware/software. This is cause for serious pause.


As it happens though, Apple won. It continues to crash for the same reason so I filed for a return and Im giving it back. I went ahead and spent $400 more dollars on a 16gb/512gb MBA M1 as Im out of patience. I have to say, this is the first time ever I feel burned by Apple Support and frustrated with a troublesome new product. from an otherwise stellar firm in my experience. I've also already advised friends and family to let me (and others) sort through these new M1 machines until they're better resolved, bugs worked out and to hold off purchases until the next gen arrives.

Jul 24, 2021 8:21 PM in response to AusMacU

From what you report, AusMacU, it doesn’t sound like you are actually experiencing a Memory issue.


It is probably good that you have removed «Avira Antivirus», though I cannot guarantee that it was causing your issue(s).


Running slow (what you have been calling «lock up»), is usually traced to some process (usually a background process) making heavy use of your CPU.


Have you tried looking at the CPU tab, in Activity Monitor, with the View set to show All Processes, rather than the default of “My Processes”?


(By the way, decades ago, I got in the habit of running CPU, and other system monitors, all the time, especially on Windows systems. I do the same on my Macs.)

Oct 1, 2021 1:09 AM in response to jarmeearc220

I have a MacMini M1 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. It's the top model of their M1 architecture and I have to tell you guys: DON'T UPGRADE FROM YOUR 8GB TO 16GB, BECAUSE I DO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM (and I have 16GB).


It's 1st October 2021 and I see messages about this issue dating back Dec-2020. It's very disappointing that Apple didn't do a **** about this for almost a year already.

Oct 1, 2021 11:25 AM in response to jarmeearc220

I have a brand new M1 MBP with 16gb of memory and 176gb free on my SSD. Yet I am getting this same "Your system has run out of application memory" multiple times a day. More often than not, this error message pops up while my computer is not in use and is the first thing I see when I log back in.


The only high memory usage I could foresee is Google Chrome tabs and Mail. None of the Intel-based apps I use (of which there are very few) show high memory usage.


When I worked with Apple Support, they simply opened up Activity Monitor to show that the memory was in high use (13gb/16gb). Then they encouraged me to reinstall macOS.


In the past two weeks, my machine has already been reformatted and freshly installed 3 times—all related to issues with the M1 chip that appear in these support fora.


I indicated to Apple I have installed no new applications and that my usage is in no way different from my old 2017 MBPR with 4gb memory. On that machine, I never once in years received this warning.


Apple Support told me this is not a known issue and they are not aware of this issue coming up in Apple Support community fora.


No idea whether Apple actually reads any of these, but does seem from a very cursory search of these fora as well as Google and Reddit that many, many people are complaining about this on their M1 machines—with Apple's solutions seeming to be throwing more money to upgrade memory to the amount of memory I have or more (despite users with 16gb and 32gb memory also complaining about this issue).

Oct 13, 2021 11:20 AM in response to Abhisyal23

Abhisyal23 wrote:

I am having the same issue on my MacBook Pro M1 8gb 512GB. Never had this issue on my Intel MBP. Really disappointed. …

The issue, we have found, is not inherent in the macOS, but can be caused by any of a number of (third-party) background processes; especially old Intel based code, run in the background.

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… Also, MB M1 does not support 2 [external] screens and I can't get over it.

This was expressed in the documentation you can read even before you ordered.

Oct 19, 2021 1:54 PM in response to Kevin Geiss

Kevin Geiss:


When I wrote things like «doesn’t sound like it should be a problem», or «That should not be a problem, unless …», I’m not referring to the obvious problem that results from the Operating System (OS) bringing up the dialogue we are all commenting upon. («because the OS will start killing apps», as you expressed of that secondary, resulting problem.)


I’m commenting upon whether the observed Memory usage, etc., is indicative of any actual problem, to which the OS is, appropriately, responding to.


I agree that there is a “bug”, somewhere: Possibly «in the memory manager» (though I have seen very similar affects on Intel architecture), but, also, possibly due to other, interfering code. (Your experience could well be indicative of the latter.)


In general, it is not wise to upgrade when one has issues with one’s machine. This tends to simply “carry over” the issues (potentially even making them worse).


I would not upgrade unless I had (nearly incontrovertible) proof that the issue was inherent in the OS.

Nov 11, 2021 9:27 AM in response to Halliday

Wallace_Ugulino:


I’ve not been able to get Safari to use anywhere near as much “Memory” on forums.macrumors.com as you have shown. (Mine is showing less than 1GB).


Incidentally, I find that “Memory” is about as inconsistent on Monterey as it was on Big Sur: When I pull up the Information window, on a process, I get consistent values for Real Memory, Shared Memory, and Private Memory, between the corresponding Memory columns vs. the Information window; yet, the “Memory” column, of the Memory tab, doesn’t correspond with anything in the Information window (the only remaining memory related value in the Information window is “Virtual Memory Size”, which is, almost invariably, far larger than the “Memory” size).

Dec 1, 2021 3:48 AM in response to jarmeearc220

I've had the exact same issue, even though I purchased my 13in Macbook Pro with 16GB of ram.

To put it in context my work laptop is a 2019 16in Macbook Pro with 16gb ram and I've NEVER had any issues with running out of memory.


I escalated this issue with Apple in March, went to stores about a handful of times *in between our lockdowns and a few computer wipes later. The solution at a store level was to replace the logic board. This to me is ridiculous. Imagine purchasing a brand new car and being told the entire engine needs to be replaced. That didn't sit well with me given no one could with certainty tell me that the problem would be fixed. I ended up contacting Apple's call centre and escalated my case. This was now in August. After speaking to a handful of reps and being thrown around from one rep to the next, I was told I'get a call back which I never did. In October I called again, shared my experience and again I was advised that they would check with their consumer law department as by this stage I was asking for a refund to put towards an intel device. No calls or follow up. And Apple released their latest range meaning I missed out on the getting my hands on the intel based laptops. I had to call again and another couple weeks later, I got another rep whom today has advised me that Apple's consumer law department advised that I would not be eligible for a refund or even a swap. I am shocked and baffled and feel that I have been taken advantage of.


The agreement us as consumers make with Apple is that by paying for a product, is that we receive a device that functions as advertised. This machine does not function, and by the sounds of it, this isn't just my case (as I was advised tonight) but seems to be experienced by many others. As a designer, I can't do the most basic actions, like using indesign and sketch. I can't even use Chrome and Excel. This isn't an Adobe issue as I've been advised but much more wide spread. I've attached a few example to show the depth of the poor chip build.


I'll contact Consumer Law to get further information as this does not sit right with me.

I've also gone as far as putting a hold on purchasing any of these machines for our business as it is not a stable environment for anyone. In this instance, unfortunately this device is but a glorified iPhone 1st gen.


Dec 1, 2020 2:01 PM in response to Prof-et

So I called Apple and after speaking with 3 people they advise, "um, you should probably just upgrade to the one with 16gb ram because we dont really know what causing this issue". They then transfer me to sales.

Interestingly, my 4mo old Intel-powered MBA never had this issue and it too has 8gb RAM. Clearly there's a technical problem and its not uncommon, I know Im an early-adopter of the new M1 laptops. But instead of trying to help me they try to upsell me and get me to spend more? And what if I do and the memory issue persists?

Honestly, first time I feel really let down by Apple support and their standing behind their products.

Dec 5, 2020 2:03 PM in response to jarmeearc220

What «memory reports», maorfrommiami?


Certainly, there are issues with webpages that abuse the user’s computer resources, as I’m sure I have mentioned, here, I believe.


Did you see no affect when you disabled the «extensions/plug-ins»? (I know what LastPass is, but I haven’t heard of the other two. [I see they are coupon related.] All three will be taking up memory and looking for website clues for their application.)


Are all three M1 native, or are they having to be emulated (Rosetta 2)? The latter will take up additional resources.

Dec 25, 2020 6:46 PM in response to lolbradywins

Funny, I had a suspicion the error would still occur with the 16gb,. Do you also have a larger SSD though? My thinking is, this is partly due to the memory swapping with the SSD and running out of space eventually. I imagine more RAM and a larger SSD should delay the frequency of it throwing this error notice.

I canceled my order for my 16gb/512gb M1 MBA because I didnt think it would resolve the issue. That and the mid/late January 2021 delivery date was ridiculous.

Jan 2, 2021 10:14 AM in response to Halliday

Hey Halliday,


Thanks for the response. I'm following your reasoning on the matter. As it is clearly bug that I am sure will be ironed out with time.


Still though it may be a temp fix to lower the res to default for those users constantly running into this issue. I know it is a bandaid but still, I know for myself that a lower res is better than that error message all the time while working. Especially, as some commented, when they are in the middle of something important.


So let's see if the screen resolution has anything to do with it.

Jan 8, 2021 2:34 PM in response to aglasgow1

Welcome, aglasgow1, to Apple Support Communities!


«Especially when I'm low on disk space» is a completely expected time for this warning!


Additionally, under that condition, if no action is taken, such can, indeed, lead to a «kernel panic», since the kernel can get into a “bind” without any recourse!


This last point is the reason for always making sure you have something like 25 GB, or more, Available on your system drive, at all times.

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