"Updates for this Mac are managed externally". No they are not!!!

Today, I got a strange, never-before-seen, error message saying that updates to my Mac are managed externally. Which is not true.




Before anyone comments, I want to say that I am the original purchaser, the personal owner, the administrator, and the sole user of this computer. It is NOT externally managed. I check for updates every week or so. This is the first time I am seeking this message.


The other strange thing - which might be related to the problem - is that it says that there is no Internet connection. The internet connection is actually working fine in my web browser and other apps, so that message is wrong and is possibly the root cause of the problem. Is it possible that for some reason, the Settings app is unable to contact the Apple update servers and this is somehow causing its logic to be messed up?


My hardware and OS details are:




Is there a reason why the Setting app alone would not be able to establish an Internet connection?


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Posted on Dec 10, 2020 6:14 AM

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Dec 10, 2020 8:19 AM in response to richardfromholmdel

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Dec 10, 2020 8:17 AM in response to richardfromholmdel

richardfromholmdel wrote:

It shows nothing, just takes me back to the first screen.

The interesting thing is that from a different User account on this same Mac (one without Administrator permission), things are normal (i.e. exactly as expected). I don't get the message about no internet connectivity and I also dont see the message about the Mac being managed externally.

That is why I suspect that the root cause is that the Settings App is unable to establish an Internet access. Sometime tonight I will reboot the computer and try again.


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Dec 10, 2020 8:37 AM in response to John Galt

I have never used any such non-Apple security software.


And I have not installed any new software during the past week - as I said earlier, I check for updates around once a week and I never ran into this problem before.


I do regularly check for software updates for apps that do not come through the Mac AppStore, but I have very few of them (Chrome, FireFox, TurboTax); I may have installed updates for one or more of those recently, but I doubt it caused this problem. Pre-Catalina, I used to have a scanner package that required low level access, but I dropped it when I moved to Catalina because I thought it required too much system level permissions. I do not have Flash.


Later tonight I will reboot the Mac and if that does not fix it I will file the bug report.


Dec 10, 2020 6:36 AM in response to richardfromholmdel

richardfromholmdel wrote:

Today, I got a strange, never-before-seen, error message saying that updates to my Mac are managed externally. Which is not true.


https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/324a3135-ab81-4873-bed7-8adf39372a13


Before anyone comments, I want to say that I am the original purchaser, the personal owner, the administrator, and the sole user of this computer. It is NOT externally managed. I check for updates every week or so. This is the first time I am seeking this message.

The other strange thing - which might be related to the problem - is that it says that there is no Internet connection. The internet connection is actually working fine in my web browser and other apps, so that message is wrong and is possibly the root cause of the problem. Is it possible that for some reason, the Settings app is unable to contact the Apple update servers and this is somehow causing its logic to be messed up?

My hardware and OS details are:


https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/3ca5951d-f716-4141-8cec-bf24e17f42b7


Is there a reason why the Setting app alone would not be able to establish an Internet connection?



I do not know what is "Setting app" (?)


I would simply try at a later date...

Dec 10, 2020 8:11 AM in response to John Galt

It shows nothing, just takes me back to the first screen.


The interesting thing is that from a different User account on this same Mac (one without Administrator permission), things are normal (i.e. exactly as expected). I don't get the message about no internet connectivity and I also dont see the message about the Mac being managed externally.


That is why I suspect that the root cause is that the Settings App is unable to establish an Internet access. Sometime tonight I will reboot the computer and try again.

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