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Migrate to iCloud contacts from Google

Hi all! I have been a decades long Android user. I've moved to iOS exclusively as of the 11 Pro Max, so I've been on iOS for about a year... and loving it.


So I've been migrating various things over to the Apple ecosystem (iCloud docs, calendar), but am now wondering about doing the same with my contacts. The problem is that I do plan to continue using Gmail. Is this a problem? It may not be. But if I disable Google's contacts on my phone or MacBook, will Gmail be able to pull contacts from my iCloud in order to send emails? I'm assuming if I've emailed someone before, it'll remember their address. But what if I want to send a first email to a contact that's only in my iCloud?


Also, what is the best way to sync contacts from Google into iCloud?


Last of all, have any of you done the same thing? Moved contacts over exclusively to iCloud?

iPhone 11 Pro Max

Posted on Dec 14, 2020 5:21 AM

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Posted on Dec 14, 2020 6:48 AM

Do you "plan to continue using Gmail" exclusively? Or, in addition to iCloud mail?


When I made the switch from Android to Apple, it was due to my developing disdain for Google products spying and data mining my info in order to sell me as their product. As such, I abandoned every product of theirs.


Things get cleaner when you pick one or the other. In your iPhone and Mac settings, you can allow Contact info to be pulled from both Gmail and iCloud, but you have to select one or the other as the default preference. Any new contacts added will be created in the default contact manager, unless you manually say different.


You sound as if you are inclined toward the Apple camp, so I would say put both feet in the Apple boat rather than trying to keep one on the dock with Google! Easy to setup Gmail to forward all incoming mail to your iCloud email. Then transition people and online accounts over to your iCloud address, as you see fit.


To get to the point of your question:

  • Go into your Google Contacts
  • In the menu down the left side, there is an option to Export Contacts
  • Choose the option: vCard (for iOS Contacts)


Now, go to iCloud Contacts and do an Import Contacts to pull in the data file you created. Most likely, you will have to do some manual cleanup on the results. Once you get everything tidy, start using your iCloud contacts exclusively.


It is best to think about Contacts, Mail, and Calendar in the same manner regarding fully getting on board. Things work cleaner if you go full in Apple. As you probably know, you can uninstall all Google apps from you iPhone, Mac, etc. yet still use the Apple mail app to get, read, and reply to you Gmail emails, if you don't want to setup Gmail to just forward to iCloud.


Presuming you have reason for keeping a Gmail identity separate from your iCloud, it works quite like this:

  • Open your Apple Mail settings
  • Under "Accounts", add your Gmail account
  • Under the account options, switch on Mail only
  • Leave Contacts, Calendars, and Reminders switched off (You can mix the worlds, but convoluted if not careful)


This allows you to read and reply to email in your GMail account, but you save, manage, and pull all contact info from your iCloud Contacts.


Hopefully that all makes a bit of sense!





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Dec 14, 2020 6:48 AM in response to wvcadle

Do you "plan to continue using Gmail" exclusively? Or, in addition to iCloud mail?


When I made the switch from Android to Apple, it was due to my developing disdain for Google products spying and data mining my info in order to sell me as their product. As such, I abandoned every product of theirs.


Things get cleaner when you pick one or the other. In your iPhone and Mac settings, you can allow Contact info to be pulled from both Gmail and iCloud, but you have to select one or the other as the default preference. Any new contacts added will be created in the default contact manager, unless you manually say different.


You sound as if you are inclined toward the Apple camp, so I would say put both feet in the Apple boat rather than trying to keep one on the dock with Google! Easy to setup Gmail to forward all incoming mail to your iCloud email. Then transition people and online accounts over to your iCloud address, as you see fit.


To get to the point of your question:

  • Go into your Google Contacts
  • In the menu down the left side, there is an option to Export Contacts
  • Choose the option: vCard (for iOS Contacts)


Now, go to iCloud Contacts and do an Import Contacts to pull in the data file you created. Most likely, you will have to do some manual cleanup on the results. Once you get everything tidy, start using your iCloud contacts exclusively.


It is best to think about Contacts, Mail, and Calendar in the same manner regarding fully getting on board. Things work cleaner if you go full in Apple. As you probably know, you can uninstall all Google apps from you iPhone, Mac, etc. yet still use the Apple mail app to get, read, and reply to you Gmail emails, if you don't want to setup Gmail to just forward to iCloud.


Presuming you have reason for keeping a Gmail identity separate from your iCloud, it works quite like this:

  • Open your Apple Mail settings
  • Under "Accounts", add your Gmail account
  • Under the account options, switch on Mail only
  • Leave Contacts, Calendars, and Reminders switched off (You can mix the worlds, but convoluted if not careful)


This allows you to read and reply to email in your GMail account, but you save, manage, and pull all contact info from your iCloud Contacts.


Hopefully that all makes a bit of sense!





Dec 14, 2020 7:52 AM in response to TrafGib

Hello, and thanks for your reply. I will definitely, by choice, continue using Gmail exclusively. I have not spent any time trying to use iCloud mail. The reason for this one is obvious - Apple mail really stinks. Gmail's archiving, searching, etc. are unmatched. I use Gmail through my Apple Mail client on my MacBook, but whenever I need to search for something I archived, even days ago, Apple fails miserably. So I end up opening a browser window, logging into Gmail, and finding what I was looking for immediately. If Apple has the ability to step up and provide as rock solid of an email service as Google, that's what would take my "foot off the dock" and see me go all in. But I don't see that happening.


One other thing I worry about is Apple's walled garden. It's great on the one hand, but really unhelpful on the other. Google Photos is another thing that many Apple users prefer. Google Photos works cross platform, it's web interface is far superior to Apple Photos', and try to share an album from the garden to any non-iOS user. I remember Apple suing Microsoft decades ago for including Windows Media Player in Windows. They said it was unfair, and no one would want to download Quicktime. Now look at Apple. Everything is proprietary and really expensive. They still haven't agreed to move to USB-C.


Anyway, I've gotten off topic. I could talk about this stuff for days! So, if I migrate my contacts and calendar over to Apple, but leave Gmail intact, even with Google contacts not synced to my iPhone/Macbook, Gmail should still recognize my iOS contacts and send mail to them just fine. Is that correct? I'd be using Apple Mail on my MacBook, and the Gmail client on my iPhone.


Anything else you can think of about this migration I've got going on?

Dec 15, 2020 7:06 AM in response to wvcadle

No offense taken! I wavered in and out myself, a number of times. In past IT roles, I have been deeply ingrained in both the Google GSuite of apps as well as Microsoft Office 365. For mail, I learned to greatly appreciate Outlook in the business environment due to how well it integrated across all their apps, active directory, Teams, SharePoint, etc.


As my distaste for all things Google progressed, I carried the use of Outlook over into my personal life long after my switch over to the iPhone & iPad. Exploring the different ways to make Outlook work best with my Apple devices is the only reason I had some insight into the questions you were asking about contacts and such.


Several many times I would make the switch over to full on Apple tools. However, since I did not own an Apple computer, my desktop experience was relegated to what I could do on a Windows PC. My earlier comment regarding the Apple mail experience, via iCloud.com and a web browser was born out of this experience. I realize that Apple would much rather you use their products, but the Mail experience for a Windows user is so horrid that I would give up and return to using Outlook. By the way, the Outlook (mail, contacts, and calendar) experience on Apple devices if friggin' awesome!


At any rate, I did the switch back and forth from Outlook to Apple Mail several times because I wanted it to work so badly. Each time I was so deeply disappointed by Apple Mail in the browser that I would switch back to Outlook. I couldn't help but wonder whether this embarrassing (for Apple) Mail experience was by intent, or oversight. And likewise, I could not help but wonder whether the same disappointing experiences would carry over if I were to finally buy an Apple computer.


Ever in wonder, once the M1 Mac mini showed up, that was the trigger I needed to find out for myself. So, despite what might have come across as Apple fanboy, my zeal is only as new as the M1 computers! Once it populated my desktop, I again made the switch to all-in on the Apple ecosystem. So far, I am greatly impressed and feel like it just might stick this time!


Obviously, my "one foot in the boat and one foot on the dock" analogy stemmed from personal experience. Good luck exploring the options!

Dec 14, 2020 1:53 PM in response to wvcadle

To answer the question in you final paragraph, yes. Your Gmail will be pulling from your iCloud Contacts list.


Reading your response, I am certainly confused. If you are intending to use Gmail exclusively, and also have concern with Apple's "walled garden", what is your motivation for moving your contacts to iCloud as opposed to just leaving them in Gmail?


Using Apple products, but remaining a devout Gmail user, it would seem that the cleanest approach would be to use the Gmail app on your iPhone, keeping all mail, contacts, calendar, etc. intact within the Google ecosystem, and then on your Mac just use the browser version of Gmail. Without question, Apple's mail, used in a browser via iCloud.com, stinks something awful. It is embarrassing really in comparison to how great both Gmail and Outlook are via web access.


Anyway, since you greatly value the Gmail/Google search functionality, I would be inclined to keep everything in their world.

Dec 14, 2020 2:50 PM in response to TrafGib

Thanks again for your reply. First off, I'm not an all or nothing kind of person. I don't believe I have to be all-in on the Apple ecosystem. I first truly wanted to just use the Apple calendar. For a silly reason, I decided to migrate my contacts as well. And then later decided on iCloud Drive. It's more about my interest to see how they all work together since Apple products work so well together. I believe you've answered all of my questions about the products I am migrating.


About the walled garden. I'm not "worried" about the walled garden. It was just conversation. I believe Apple is to Google as Target is to Walmart. Target would be Walmart if they could, in a heartbeat. While I don't think Apple wants to be Google, I'm not for one minute believing Apple isn't mostly as evil. On the surface, they say and do most of the things we'd want them to do. But beneath it all, they have many backroom deals that have been going on for years just like the rest.


What I love about Apple is the fact that because of that "walled garden", their products just 'know' each other. Apple customer service is world class compared to Google's "post on a forum and wait" approach. Google is pretty good at hardware support, but as for software and services, they're completely hands off. Apple, on the other hand, will support all parts of their products and services.


Hope none of this offends your product loyalty! :). Mine is building, it's just not all the way there yet. And Gmail is still without a doubt the world's best email client and service.

Dec 15, 2020 8:02 AM in response to TrafGib

So, how about this update just a day later. I'm now going to give Apple Mail a try, which means I'll be all-in on the ecosystem. Sounds like a flip-flop to me! So, I have begun that process.


First, I created folders in iCloud mail, then used the 'Copy To' function in Apple Mail on my MacBook to dump all of the mail I've saved for years in Gmail to those same folders. I even did a little cleaning up of labels (folders) while I was at it. Boy, I spent a few minutes reminiscing over some old save emails too!


Second, I just got done setting up my Gmail to forward all mail to my iCloud Mail. I'm guessing I'll just log into services and website and update my email address as I get emails. Some suggested setting up an auto-reply asking folks to update my address in their address books, but I didn't want this to go to some sites and businesses without me manually reviewing them.


I guess the biggest downfall of the process (not the result) is monitoring both mailboxes until the transition is complete, which could take day or weeks, depending on how hard I want to attack this. I'm a little OCD and can't just have 2000 unread emails sitting in my Gmail inbox!


As for Apple products, I bought a MacBook Air last year around this time. I had gotten a MacBook Pro for work, and after taking it home and using it exclusively for several months, and then deciding to fire up my personal Windows based laptop because of 'big brother', and watching it spin for THREE DAYS updating, all while not being able to use it, I swore then I'd never buy another Windows based PC again. I loooove my MacBook and MacOS.


Last bit of conversation... as for Outlook, I still just have a bad taste in my mouth from using Outlook and dealing with .pst and .ost files, and how incredibly difficult it seemed to move my data from old PCs to new ones, I just quit and went to webmail, first beginning with Hotmail, then moving on to Gmail. I'm guessing Outlook is 100% online nowadays, so maybe none of the same worries. But man, it was all I could do not to throw my computer out of the window dealing with Outlook profiles and data files.


Any more advice on the transition to iCloud mail from Gmail? Also, if something should happen, and I decide I want to return to the dark side, is there an easy way to move mail from iCloud back to Gmail? Apple Mail on my MacBook would work the same way as far as copying saved messages back to Gmail, wouldn't it (Copy To function)?


Thanks again!

Dec 15, 2020 8:31 AM in response to wvcadle

The only other thing I meant to mention was from early in this thread, and the was regrind Google photos. Like you, I had tons of stuff there and relied on it. However, one of the benefits of an Amazon Prime account is their photo storage. Not that Amazon is to be trusted any more than Google, but it is an alternative.


My setup today is to have my photos go to both iCloud Photos and Amazon photos. This gives me a safety net. Later, as I curate the photo collection, I can move items I want to keep into local backup storage and clear out my large but limited iCloud storage yet leaving a copy in the as yet unlimited Amazon repository. Fortunately, the Amazon Photos tools and organization are on par with, if not better than, Google Photos.


Interesting turn of events! I certainly did the flip-flop a number of times. Everything you detailed sounds like a good plan, but I am not following your thought on one item. Specifically "monitoring both mailboxes until the transition is complete". Since you have setup your Gmail to forward all incoming mail to your iCloud email address, you don't have to monitor the Gmail account. All new inbound Gmail will be seen in your Apple Mail. Maybe I am missing something in your concern.

Dec 15, 2020 10:20 AM in response to TrafGib

My only thing is, at least until I have contacted all of the sites and businesses that use my old email, and in case I ever decided to flip back over to Gmail, I'd like to keep it organized at least until I stop receiving emails at the Gmail address. I've started the process by contacting all of my banking and credit companies and changed my address with them. Next I'll move onto any social media sites, and any others I use a lot. After those, I'll just change them as I get emails from them. When I have all of them changed I care about, I'll unsubscribe from the rest (not many) and stop monitoring the Gmail address.


Did any of that make sense? :)

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