Big Sur 11.1 External Display Issues!

I've installed macOS Big Sur 11.1 right after it launched today. My mistake lol


Unfortunately, I noticed my Type-C ports no longer recognize my two external monitors. I'm using HDMI to Type-C. So far my troubleshooting is as follows:

  1. PRAM reset. This seemed to help until I locked the display. Once unlocked via Touch ID, the True Tone went off and one of the two monitors went out and will no longer connect. Woot. Normally, when connecting an external display, the screen goes black then back on, however, the screen short-of lags and then doesn't ever detect an active connection.
  2. SMC reset. This actually didn't help at all... :(
  3. Fresh install, same issues.


Any suggestions?

MacBook Pro

Posted on Dec 14, 2020 3:44 PM

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Posted on Feb 16, 2021 4:54 AM

Same problem. Just installed 11.2.1 - No Joy.


I'm running a Macbook Pro 2016 - 2019

32GB ram 4TB.

I'm connected to a J5Create JCD543. Via USB-C

2 DELL SE 2719HR displays.


Also tested on a 2019 Macbook Air. - No joy


Prior to Big Sur, my set up was solid.




Work Arounds: As of Feb 16 2021


Option 1: j5Create just launched a driver. But...well... as of now, it's not useable. It works. Kind of... but it's DJTVirtualDisplayAgent and some other USB virtual software that needs to be approved by security. It enables the second display, but with a 1 or 2 second screen lag. So any interaction with items on that display are slow. Like using Virtual PC in the 1990's. Maybe they will improve this.


Option 2: Use 2 USB-C ports. So, one cable goes into the j5Create hub and the second goes into an HDMI to USB-C adapter. Not the end of the world, but does require an extra USB-C port. results in normal use of 2 displays.


Option 3: I tried other hubs (prices may have changed since posting this.)

USB-3 Hub 123.99

https://amzn.to/3jV4aYp (both displays worked, but requires a special USB-C dual port cable) - returned


Portable USB-C hub pro $59

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0855GZ7PT (both displays worked, but also requires 2 ports, plus, it's a short cable, all cables must be visible on the table. I'm sure you know what I mean.. messy. - returned


Docking Station OKX $149

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HLXLW1Q (Yes, best choice so far. only requires 1 cable and has lots of ports. BUT It does require a driver.

https://www.displaylink.com/downloads


It's still a hack. requires you to be logged into the user account that you have installed the software. So, that means 1 display will be active while rebooting, up until you actually log in, then after about 15 seconds, it launches the second display. No lag, it works well as a work around. This one I'm keeping.


Oh, to save you time, I tried installing this displaylink software to use with other hubs. No dice, it looks for it's own hardware. sorry... (as of the time of this posting. Maybe that will change)



Summary:

I kept the OKX docking with displaylink for my home office. It's nice and clean, with the hub hidden and a 1 simple cable into my USB-C port (also provides power). Nice... but cluncky when rebooting. Must wait for software to load.


At work, I kept the j5Create. 1 USB-C cable from the hub, and all my devices are neatly tucked away. Requires a second HDMI-USBC cable to power 2 monitors, and takes 2 ports. Hopefully Apple will figure out the conflicting software or someone will find a terminal hack to help us all out.


Ethan-

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Feb 4, 2021 6:04 PM in response to iTimC21

I was fine in 11.1, but now the supposed *fix* in 11.2 broke me. Every once in a while I get a screen freeze (but computer is still running, sound still plays, I can even click on any misc UI element and hear feedback if I can guess where to click). Unplugging the USB-C connection to the display and plugging it back in fixes it each time.


On a Mac Mini M1 using a Dell U3415W (3440 x 1440) display connected via USB-C to Mini Display Port.


Not sure how Apple managed to unsolve sending pixels to a display w/ Big Sur.

Feb 5, 2021 11:32 AM in response to iTimC21

This is my first Apple Mac Computer (after using iPhones, iPads for over 10years now). I bought the Appe Mac Mini with M1 4 weeks ago. I have a Samsung ultra-wide Display with the native display solution of 5120*1440px.

1.) With 11.0 and 11.1 I had the bug that I can only this display with 3840x1080. Not looking good.

2.) Using a USB-C to Display Port adapter I wasn't able to use the PBP-Mode of the display. I had a picture but the monitor always wrote the message that I had to check the signal cable,... (Big Sur 11.1)

3.) With HDMI everything works fine but not the native display solution

4.) I ordered the second new cable USB-C to Display Port. This one works with the Picture-by-Picture Mode. Same day update to Big Sur 11.2,...

5.) Ohh, everythings works fine. I was happy. Native screen resolution, PBP-Mode,...

6.) Reboot

7.) Black screen - second USB-C,... Display works again

8.) Reboot

9.) Black screen - no way to get the display working with the USB-C to DP cable, only HDMI works

10.) I'm total frustrated


@Apple: You write that this device supports a display up to 6k - sorry - in the moment this is wrong! Sorry guys, fix this or you get the device back,...

Feb 5, 2021 11:07 PM in response to cfritschler

I complained many times and agree with you: everyone who is active in this thread MUST do that and call in the customer service as well.

I read many posts here finishing with “apple please fix that”, but guys, I tell you a thing: APPLE DOESN’T READ THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS.

This is just useful for us to share some workaround but, as it is an OS big, Apple must be informed and contacted directly or nothing moves.

I don’t know why many people are not experiencing the issue, ** ai assume that so many are just silent

Feb 6, 2021 9:56 PM in response to Geestig

I have the same issue, Big Sur 11.0 was fine but as soon as I "updated" to 11.1 neither of my 23" Cinema Displays monitors worked. They will work with my wife's MacBook Air (not running Big Sur).


To be fair, I've had consistent contact with an Apple advisor up until two weeks ago. He told me that the engineering team expected 11.2 would solve the problem, and to have patience. 11.2 did not solve the issue, and this advisor is no longer reachable. I have a new advisor, as of Feb. 3. I'm supposed to hear more on Monday, February 8.


Incidentally, I had to upgrade my older MacBook Pro in December 2019 as I needed the 64-bit capability. Had to return it as it only had two ports (this is the Pro machine?) and Apple advised against using multi-port adapters. I ended up buying the 16" MacBook Pro which at least has 4 ports. The monitors have three cords in an umbilical cable—USB, Firewire, and DVI. In the past, I've only connected the DVI output, adapted to USB. Apple was able to "recognize" the ports were connected when I had both the USB and DVI cables adapted and attached, but neither monitor came to life.


I'm so used to Apple being "plug and play," or "plug and work." What has happened?







Feb 10, 2021 4:50 AM in response to tertulliano

Still no improvement with the 11.2 the promised 4K bug is not solved eventhough listed


macOS Big Sur 11.2 improves Bluetooth reliability and fixes the following issues:

  • External displays may show a black screen when connected to a Mac mini (M1, 2020) using an HDMI to DVI converter


Instead in addition the not-loading the battery while connected to the display is back - and that on my 16" MacBook Pro


macOS Big Sur 11.2.1 addresses an issue that may prevent the battery from charging in some 2016 and 2017 MacBook Pro models.


scheduled for install tonight - however my mac is 2019 ---- AAAAAHHHHRRRRRGHHH - don't expect a fix


Just shows that Apple should in fact be aware, so why no fix?


Feb 15, 2021 8:41 PM in response to iTimC21

My Apple Cinema displays (DVI, Fire Wire and USB outputs) still don't work with Big Stupid, oh, my bad, Big Sur 11.1 or 11.2.1.


Initially, Apple gave me a good amount of attention. But now, not so much.


I plugged the monitors into a MacBook Air and they still work.


I've noticed comments about changing monitor settings, but I don't think I have that option.


Maybe they're not the smartest monitors in the world, but they work, especially for my needs.




Feb 16, 2021 2:59 AM in response to soctic

Quick Fix that worked for me!!!

I have a Quick Fix for the 11.1 or 11.2 External Display issue. Purchase a long Belkin cable directly from Belkin.com, (HDMI Lightning connector). I did and it is now working for me. Careful though, I first purchased the same cable through the Appstore and it did not work. Belkin replaced it and that one did not work. I contacted Belkin directly and they determined my cable was faulty and offered to send a third one. I agreed but I insisted that they pretest it at their end before sending.

Feb 18, 2021 2:03 AM in response to iTimC21

Same issue here with MacBook Air with m1, and HP z27n G2. I've tried a pair of usb-c to usb-c cables, and also a usb-c to DisplayPort converter, and a lot of different settings of monitor and a many recommendations from various forums. Nothing worked. My Nvidia 1070 in a desktop PC runs that monitor over DP excellent, so the monitor is OK. I see that only a power delivery over usb-c to usb-c cable is working, when I connecting my Mac. I've also updated to Big Sur 11.3 beta 2, and issue is still here.

Feb 26, 2021 4:28 PM in response to hurdes

I don't think they are doing anything about it... I just got my brand new mac mini with the M1 chip back from the not-so-"genius" bar and been told there is absolutely no issue with the device, even though when I have it connected to my Samsung Odyssey G9 monitor, there are issues with the video output signal as in every time it starts/restarts/wakes-up, doesn't sent the video signal to the monitor, so I am getting the "No Source" message....unplugging and replugging the USB-C to DisplayPort cable solves the issue until the next start/restart/wake-up. Of course, Apple blamed it on the G9 monitor, but the same monitor works well with my 16" MacBook Pro...then I have been told it may be the cable...so I told them again, it works with my 16"MBP...then they said "settings", and so on, until I have been told it is a new chip, with a new technology and this is what's happening with "revolutionary" technology...

In my opinion this is unacceptable, we are not testers, we PAID for the products.

Apple is just ignoring us...I wonder for how long?

I saw posts here from 5 months ago stating these issues and those not-that-competent engineers and software developpers were not capable of fixing this issue...

Feb 27, 2021 9:57 AM in response to michaelm411

I have tried two different hubs and going direct and it makes no difference, my external monitor still doesn't work. 11.2 has not fixed the problem. There is no workaround which works for everyone. Hopefully, eventually Apple will fix this bug. In the meantime my productivity is decreased by not having use of my external monitor. As has been said before, WTF, we're all paying customers, not guinea pigs to try our BETA operating systems with MAJOR bugs. Shame on Apple for such extremely poor customer support -- and just not caring...

Feb 27, 2021 1:41 PM in response to guy154

Every time they release a new update that doesn't fix it, I am submitting a new report now. If we all keep doing it, hopefully they will finally fix it by 11.3 is released.


People need to make sure they say it didn't happen in the first version of OS 11 or Catalina (or Windows Boot camp), so Apple don't just write it off as a problem with your adapter/monitor.

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