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Big Sur - New/Open/Save dialog box -size won't save

New issue on Big Sur 11.1 -- my open and save dialog boxes "revert" to the original size.

I've tried many applications, I've done PRAM and SMC resets, I've relaunched Finder, I've resized the screen (default > scaled), yet... it remains the default, small size (which is irritating).

This is new in 11.1 - 11.01 and 10.x never had this issue.


MacBook Pro with Touch Bar

Posted on Dec 15, 2020 7:38 AM

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Posted on Dec 15, 2020 10:03 AM

Ok. On Big Sur 11.1 and it is insulting that no one in the macOS product team thought that half-size from previously normal open or close dialogs were wrong. Nothing the end user can do about this as the die is cast in the frameworks that create these panels. I have some Swift and Python/Objective-C applications here that set a custom framesize for open panels, and these appear as they have in the past, albeit a narrower side panel.


Although the 11.1 Open and Save panels allow one to click and drag a corner to enlarge them, it is not remembered by the application. I suggest sending feedback directly to the macOS product team. Let them know that sloppy work is not acceptible.

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Feb 3, 2021 8:36 AM in response to juonamacbookpro

Agree - Update .2 fixed the window size .... NOW, can someone ping Apple about fixing the TINY FILE NAME FIELD ... it remains it's tiny fixed size and is so small that it's useless (if you use canonical file names that need to be longer)... have to scroll around in the itty-bitty field just to read it or get to the end of the filename.


How about a % of the windows width? If we want our window larger, it would stand to reason that we want the fields larger, too. responsive UX here seems like a good (up-do-date) concept!

Feb 3, 2021 12:08 PM in response to sosears

OK, we might be talking about two different things. I'm, referring to the left side of the 'open/save/save as' dialog box, where the Favorites are listed. . You can't increase the width of it until you increase the size of the entire dialog box by dragging one of the corners.


You can then increase the width, enabling viewing of the entire folder name. To do that, hover the cursor over the vertical line just to the right of the folder names.

Feb 3, 2021 12:24 PM in response to zecanard

True, sorry about the misunderstanding.


However, here's a bit of a workaround: With your cursor in the name field, if you hold down the Option key and then click the left or right arrow button, the cursor will jump to the end of each word, making it easier to see and edit the full file name. (And the Command/arrow combo will move the cursor to the beginning or end of the file name.)


Hope that helps.

Feb 9, 2021 5:02 PM in response to Robert Ortenzi

Nope! I just updated to macOS Big Sur 11.2.1 and it's only partially fixed.


In the Save As dialog I noticed that while it now continuously retains the resizing of the main right-hand window pane (folder and file list), the Sidebar window (locations, favourites, tags...) reverts back to the extremely annoying small default size on any subsequent occasion when no resizing of the Sidebar has since been made.


For instance, every time I resize the width of Sidebar window in the Save As dialog and then exit the dialog (using Cancel or Save), it will retain the new width size on the very next occasion the Save As dialog is launched - giving the impression the bug has been fixed! But... if I exit the dialog as is without making any further resize changes to the Sidebar window it then reverts back to the small default size on the very next occasion.


I actually can't believe Apple with their top-quality software developers manages to get this half-baked fix pass quality control before the update is deployed.

Feb 28, 2021 5:05 PM in response to dubline

System reliability is out the window now.


I quit Chrome - which requires prolonged holding down Command+Q [breaking from the base OS but there you have it] and with Safari behind this, Safari got caught in the long hold-down and it too Quit.


No problem I think to myself. I "restart" Safari. It bounces and bounces and bounces... continues to bounce, doesn't open. Now I cannot even click the icon - it is dimmed. It beeps back at me.


This is a relatively new MacBookPro [late-2018 purchased early 2019] with lots of RAM [32GB] and is acting like a 1.6GHz with 4GB of RAM... completely unacceptable.


And Mail is still crap - the prefs window is stuck in 2004 - cannot make it wider to see the email account names, all I see is andrew@... and with several emails that start with this, Mail is useless to me.


And FontBook still cannot disable all of the craptastic garbage fonts I do not need - I cannot have 30 trillion junk fonts with absolutely no purpose whatsoever clogging my design apps. This is greatly affecting my ability to work on a Mac.


Any other apps anyone having problems with STILL under Big Sur?


TextEdit was always crashing when I highlighted various blocks of differently-formatted text to copy or cut it to place elsewhere. Not sure if this bug is continuing.


Submitting bug reports is NOT WORKING. I have submitted these bug reports over and over again since last November - the start of the Big Sur heck [they won't let me say the other word] that I am currently going through.


Oh, just remembered another one... when taking a screen shot, the image opens in Preview which is great, then Preview presents you with the Open dialogue box. Why? I want to save the screen shot I just took - why on earth would Apple erroneously program Preview to make the user open a file?


Oh... and... and... I got a million of them... Mail has a new checkbox when saving a message, it reads quite clearly "Include Attachments" This is ON by default. It NEVER saves the attachments. I can save the text, but with dozens of emails daily from clients sending work and sending revisions, would really love it if this apparent "feature" actually worked as intended. It does not.


Is this just Catalina through Bug Sur bugs - has Apple outsourced its development?


Anyone?

Mar 1, 2021 1:41 AM in response to lindros2

so 11.2.2 is out, I've installed it. Size of sidebar is still broken FFS. If you select open/save/new it comes up too narrow, resize it, close it, open again and it appears fixed, but close that and open again and it reverts back to the tiny size.


I've ended up buying Default Folder X, purely because the developer has added a fix for the Apple issue to keep the sidebar fixed after resizing. Yes it works, but why should have to buy additional software to bodge Apples awful bug checking. And yes I have reported the issue to Apple in 11.2, 11.2.1 and now 11.2.2!

Mar 1, 2021 2:11 AM in response to j4m1eb

j4m1eb wrote:
I've ended up buying Default Folder X, purely because the developer has added a fix for the Apple issue to keep the sidebar fixed after resizing.

Thank you for the tip with Default Folder X, j4m1eb. I installed it right away and the open/save sidebar is indeed fixed! I never thought I'd be that happy about such a basic feature...


You are correct. We shouldn't have to buy additional software to get around some stupid and unnecessary bugs in the most basic parts of Apple's operating system. But Default Folder X does introduce a few pretty useful and time-saving features. So I consider it worth the money.


Still...

Mar 2, 2021 12:52 AM in response to moomin-mama

I have to say, I feel and agree to what you are talking about. I bought this most expensive €5000+ Macbook Pro and it is the most unreliable I ever had. Crashes for the first 4 months every day. Multiple. Now those are gone after a few software updates, but still not happy, to b ehonest. Despite the software (aka OS) issues, this powerful machine starts spinning the fans on turbo as soon as I enter a video chat and alike. This is ridiculous and does not feel good. And I am using Apple since more than 25 years now. First machine I am not really happy with (the last one I had and still have isa Macbook Pro mid 2014).

Big Sur - New/Open/Save dialog box -size won't save

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