iphone 12 pro max battery health degrading

Since you know so much, Larry, how about addressing my post? Why is my iPhone 11 Pro still at 100%--checked just now and my newer by a year, iPhone 12 Pro is at 96%--using the same types of chargers, same usage, etc. as my old iPhone 8 that didn't show such degradation within a year. Instead of being so condescending towards others, I cannot fathom how you're able to get consulting jobs with your attitude and your pompous display on LinkedIn, how about trying to either be helpful or be quiet? Repeating the same thing for points is pathetic.

My 12PM was dropping 2% per month and I would be able to claim free battery after 1yr cos it would have been below 80%.

However once it hit 89% it has been stuck there for the past 2mths… so I will not be able claim free battery replacement.. Apple is rich for a reason

Regarding your deleted comment, posts that violate the terms of use get deleted, such as personal attacks and discussing Apple policies rather than technical observations.

You have read very little of the forum (let alone much of this thread) if you think all negative comments are deleted. This thread alone has hundreds of negative comments.

Has it ever occured to these people that you might find yourself in a situation where you cannot charge your phone and you absolutely need it to get to where you need to be?

What if you are stuck somewhere in the wilderness?

What do you do then when your phone dies in less than 6 hours?

You literarily might get found dead because you were not able to make a call or share your location when needed.

Look at this image from my iPhone 12 Mini. Absolutely no usage and it dropped 50% in 6 hours.

My Samsung S9, to this day, only needs a charge to 100% every 2-3 days on normal usage.

Already did the full reset and update. Still same results. I think I will return my iPhone. Sadly this is also my first apple device since the iPod touch with the exact same problem back in like 2007.

motorola-user wrote:

Has it ever occured to these people that you might find yourself in a situation where you cannot charge your phone and you absolutely need it to get to where you need to be?

What if you are stuck somewhere in the wilderness?

What do you do then when your phone dies in less than 6 hours?

You literarily might get found dead because you were not able to make a call or share your location when needed.

That is the most absurd statement I have seen in a long time.

What if your phone dies in 8 hours, and you are stuck in the wilderness?

What if your phone dies in 20 hours, and you are stuck in the wilderness?

What if your phone dies in 50 hours, and you are stuck in the wilderness for a week?

What if you fall in a river and your phone gets waterlogged and dies?

What if you drop it into a crevasse or off a cliff?

The bottom line is you should NEVER depend on ANY cell phone for an emergency like that, or, if you have no choice, you carry either solar chargers or high capacity battery packs or both. But cell phones are the wrong choice for emergencies in the wilderness.

You probably didn’t know, but most US National Parks and many State wilderness parks have NO CELL SERVICE. Intentionally. Because they want people to prepare properly for wilderness exploration, and not become overly dependent on fragile technology devices. That means filing travel plans with friends and relatives, and reporting your plans to ranger stations as you explore. And specifying when and where you should be expected next.

Haha, it seems you can’t backup your claims with hard evidence, which makes your replies absolutely irrelevant. There are people who have more information than normal folks, sure. And those people had revealed information saying Apple was planning on using cheaper batteries in the 12 series to offset the cost of including 5g components in their phones. What we’re saying is a fallout of the same.

If Apple were to include something like a dedicated chip inside an iPhone to monitor additional battery information, you can bet they’re gonna advertise it. And they didn’t, because nothing like that has been done. The only improvements that were made was from

the iPhone 7 to X and above, which you’ll still find mentioned on the page where Apple talks about battery health. Likewise, I don’t care what you say either, unless you have hard evidence to backup your gibberish.

Regards,

P.M

@Lawrence Finch

I did not expect a different answer from you. I have read your other posts clearly defending the performance of the iPhone battery. As I said in my previous post: Change the wilderness and [insert any other location where you cant charge your phone] and then put in the timeframe of, in this case, 6 hours.

As I also already said, im paying premium price and expect premium quality.

Which obviously is not happening. Did you see my screenshot?

You probably didn't know. But Sweden is literarily like one big US National Park. 😂

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motorola-user wrote:

Change the wilderness to just being out and about in the city.

Where there are thousands of people who will be more than happy to help you with any problem. You don’t really need a phone in an emergency; there are both individuals and emergency services within shouting distance.

don't know about you, but this phone cost 1500 USD here in Sweden. And frankly I find it unacceptable that the phone cant last 6 hours on standby. I'm paying premium price and therefore I expect premium quality.

Strange, my phone lasts 24 hours or longer on standby. If yours doesn’t make an appointment to have it checked out. Or figure out which app is using the most energy and get rid of it (believe it or not, lots of apps do stuff on standby unless you put the phone into low power mode - have you tried that). Go to Settings/Battery and it will display the heaviest users of energy.

ot only did I have to buy the phone, I also had to buy the 20W wall charger right. And now you're telling me to go and buy a battery pack for even more money. And on top of all this I have to carry around more stuff.

No, you DID NOT have to buy a 20W wall charger. That was a CHOICE you made. You could have charged it with any of the dozen or more chargers you have left over from previous phones and other devices, which would have been a much greener thing to do rather than buying yet another device that will end up in a landfill in a few years.

et me put it like this: No 😂

So what are you going to buy next? No high end smartphones come with chargers anymore. And if you visit forums you will find that every phone on the market has people constantly complaining about battery life. Let me suggest a dumb flip phone. It will go a week on standby, and it is sufficient for emergencies as long as you have network. And it will cost under $50. A smartphone is a luxury item; no one actually needs one.

IdrisSeabright wrote:

motorola-user wrote:

You probably didn't know. But Sweden is literarily like one big US National Park. 😂

Overflowing with recreational vehicles and American tourists?

🤣

There are US national parks and individual wilderness areas that are larger than Sweden. And that have no services. No electricity. No mobile service (because no electricity). Some with no roads, just a few hiking and horse trails. Where you can be a week or more away from “civilization” and truly on your own. People who need communications in such areas, such as archaeologists, wildlife trackers, etc, use satellite phones, not cell phones. And carry solar chargers. 40% of the land west of the Mississippi River (which means about 2/3 of the country) is government owned or government managed land. And much of it is wilderness.

I realized that. But your post was a convenient one to respond to.

I once worked on a large automation project for the Department of the Interior, Bureau of Land Management (BLM-one of the agencies that manages government land*). It was an awe-inspiring experience, seeing the extent of their responsibilities, the dedication of the thousands of staff, and the magnitude of their daily problems. I also learned about “AUMs”. Much of the public land is leased for grazing, and the herders are charged based on an AUM - Animal Unit Month. An AUM is one month of grazing for one head of cattle/bison or an equivalent for smaller animals, such as 2 sheep, 3 goats. They also manage logging, Christmas Tree planting and harvesting, wild horse management and adoptions, oil and gas leases, and many other land-based services. Our project was an updated order-entry system for these services. I say “Update”, but it was actually to replace a totally manual system.

*There are actually 3 agencies that manage Federal land; BLM, Forest Service, and National Park Service.

The fees are far below the actual cost of maintaining the land; we taxpayers make up the difference. Bundy actually wants us to pay for ALL of his grazing rather than just some of it. And land management is essential. Without it you end up with the dust bowl.

Okay, but like, 10 days is definitely NOT 25 charge cycles if I only charge it 40% from 60-100 every day. As of now, I only have 175 ish cycles, and the math doesn't add up. I'm at 92% now by the way.

crystal_star wrote:

but how can it go from 93 to 92 in 10 days if the total number of cycles in those 10 days alone was only about 4?

Because it probably went from 92.5 (which rounds to 93) to 92.4 (which rounds to 92).

Also this is unrelated but is it safe to use your phone while charging? By that, I mean apps like Youtube and Tiktok, which do take up more battery than most other apps if not plugged in. The reason I use them more while charging is because well, charging is the time when you don't have to worry about running out of battery, so I take advantage of that time and use those apps for fun. I did hear someone say that it overworks the phone, while other articles I read say it's fine. The main thing I hear is that the phone definitely charges slower, but is that necessarily bad? I thought slow charging was better than fast charging. My phone also doesn't really get hot while using those apps.