Adobe Flash Player

Just deleted the Adobe Flash Player

I need something new to view my content in my electronic medical records such as X-rays and pictures

What do I use? Need help quickly

DrK

Posted on Apr 8, 2021 7:42 AM

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Posted on Apr 12, 2021 11:05 AM

Osbie Feel wrote:

Rather than asking image-specific questions, can you just recommend what plug-in to download and where to get it, and how to install it for my Safari (Apple) browser?


You're going to need to discuss this with the IT folks supporting whatever app or environment or package is involved here, and familiar with whatever version of that app or service is in use on the server.


Flash was used to create apps that provided access to and viewing tools for other document formats, and Flash was entirely central to the storage and retrieval of the data served to users for other server configurations. How Flash was used varied. Sometimes Flash was the user interface or front end for the service, sometimes it provided an embedded view and browser graphics showing server or device or status information or other details, and sometimes Flash was the entire application.


As an example of this Flash usage and migration, starting in 2010 YouTube migrated from Flash as its default video viewer to using HTML5 video viewing. YouTube finished its migration from Flash to HTML5 video in 2015. Some platforms including iPhone and iPad migrated to HTML5 video viewing earlier than others, as those platforms never had Adobe Flash support. Most folks using YouTube probably didn't notice the migration, too—other than noticing that they no longer needed to install Flash to view YouTube, that is.


For your case, you might get further into this web site by enabling the Safari developer menu via Safari > Preferences > Advanced, and switching your browser agent string to an iPad via Safari > Develop > User Agent > Safari iOS 13.1.3 iPad (or whatever iPad-specific User Agent string is offered), and then seeing if the website shows the expected content without trying to launch Flash. Or accessing the site from an actual iPad or iPhone. This if the website was updated to recognize that iPad and iPhone lack Flash, but the web site hasn't (yet?) been updated to properly browser sniff.


But in any case, contact the folks administering whatever app or service this involves, as they should already be familiar with the demise of Flash Player, and may or will have workarounds, or updates, or profile settings suggestions that allow access to the data and documents.


Otherwise, you're headed toward getting an alternative to Flash going in your particular local environment, and then getting that plugged into a web browser. I'm aware of few websites that have tried this approach in very limited contexts, and that mostly due to schedule delays in their already-ongoing service migration away from Flash, or in cases where the Flash-using service is itself also abandoned.

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Apr 12, 2021 11:05 AM in response to Osbie Feel

Osbie Feel wrote:

Rather than asking image-specific questions, can you just recommend what plug-in to download and where to get it, and how to install it for my Safari (Apple) browser?


You're going to need to discuss this with the IT folks supporting whatever app or environment or package is involved here, and familiar with whatever version of that app or service is in use on the server.


Flash was used to create apps that provided access to and viewing tools for other document formats, and Flash was entirely central to the storage and retrieval of the data served to users for other server configurations. How Flash was used varied. Sometimes Flash was the user interface or front end for the service, sometimes it provided an embedded view and browser graphics showing server or device or status information or other details, and sometimes Flash was the entire application.


As an example of this Flash usage and migration, starting in 2010 YouTube migrated from Flash as its default video viewer to using HTML5 video viewing. YouTube finished its migration from Flash to HTML5 video in 2015. Some platforms including iPhone and iPad migrated to HTML5 video viewing earlier than others, as those platforms never had Adobe Flash support. Most folks using YouTube probably didn't notice the migration, too—other than noticing that they no longer needed to install Flash to view YouTube, that is.


For your case, you might get further into this web site by enabling the Safari developer menu via Safari > Preferences > Advanced, and switching your browser agent string to an iPad via Safari > Develop > User Agent > Safari iOS 13.1.3 iPad (or whatever iPad-specific User Agent string is offered), and then seeing if the website shows the expected content without trying to launch Flash. Or accessing the site from an actual iPad or iPhone. This if the website was updated to recognize that iPad and iPhone lack Flash, but the web site hasn't (yet?) been updated to properly browser sniff.


But in any case, contact the folks administering whatever app or service this involves, as they should already be familiar with the demise of Flash Player, and may or will have workarounds, or updates, or profile settings suggestions that allow access to the data and documents.


Otherwise, you're headed toward getting an alternative to Flash going in your particular local environment, and then getting that plugged into a web browser. I'm aware of few websites that have tried this approach in very limited contexts, and that mostly due to schedule delays in their already-ongoing service migration away from Flash, or in cases where the Flash-using service is itself also abandoned.

Apr 9, 2021 3:03 PM in response to TheLittles

I think you are confused. Flash Player is NOT encoded into any browser now. Adobe killed Flash at the start of the year and has even gone so far as activate a kill switch that prevents Flash media from playing.


Are you instead talking about PDF documents that are opened using Adobe Reader. Flash and Reader are both Adobe products but they have nothing to do with each other. You do not need Flash to open PDF documents and most browsers, including Safari, can open PDF documents on their own. Apple’s own Preview app can also open and manipulate PDF documents as well as Adobe’s “Acrobat Reader DC” app, a free download from Adobe.


Flash and Reader are apples and oranges, not related in any way.



Apr 11, 2021 10:40 PM in response to TheLittles

markos80 wrote;

Just deleted the Adobe Flash Player
I need something new to view my content in my electronic medical records such as X-rays and pictures
What do I use? Need help quickly


Adobe announced the demise of Flash starting back in 2017, and the announced deprecation and disablement then happened earlier this year, so check with your IT organization and see what they have in mind now. Whether they are migrating that content, or switching to (for instance) HTML5 media, or planning to use Ruffle or some other app?


The end-of-life announcement from Adobe: https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html



TheLittles wrote:

markos80 Said:
"Adobe Flash Player: I think you are confused. Flash Player is NOT encoded into any browser now. [...]Are you instead talking about PDF documents that are opened using Adobe Reader. Flash and Reader are both Adobe products but they have nothing to do with each other. You do not need Flash to open PDF documents and most browsers, including Safari,[...]"
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No. I am only talking about Flash. And I am only talking about using it in a Web browser. Flash is its own item - and having been encoded into so many Web browsers, Adobe dropped its own support, being there is no need for it anymore, on their end. Here is a user tip that I authored about properly uninstalling it: Adobe Flash Player for Mac - Where to Get the Uninstaller - User Tip


Adobe Flash and Adobe Flash Player is deprecated and the Player has been disabled by Adobe.


The Flash plug-ins that were once available for many mainstream browsers—including Safari—are all disabled. Safari dropped access to the plug-in ahead of Adobe, as well.


The Google Chrome embedded Flash player—which may be what was referenced—was disabled and removed a while back. Chrome was fairly unique with an embedded Flash Player, rather than a plug-in, too. See: https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/saying-goodbye-flash-chrome/


There is work on an open-source Flash player known as Ruffle. There are other efforts around.


No browser currently incorporates a functional Adobe Flash Player, nor AFAIK does any yet include Ruffle.


Caution: There are a bunch of plug-ins and ads for plug-ins around claiming to be Flash players, and a chunk of those are undoubtedly malware. Be exceedingly skeptical of installing anything claiming to be a Flash Player.


Apr 9, 2021 3:50 PM in response to lkrupp

markos80 Said:

"Adobe Flash Player: I think you are confused. Flash Player is NOT encoded into any browser now. [...]Are you instead talking about PDF documents that are opened using Adobe Reader. Flash and Reader are both Adobe products but they have nothing to do with each other. You do not need Flash to open PDF documents and most browsers, including Safari,[...]"

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No. I am only talking about Flash. And I am only talking about using it in a Web browser. Flash is its own item - and having been encoded into so many Web browsers, Adobe dropped its own support, being there is no need for it anymore, on their end. Here is a user tip that I authored about properly uninstalling it: Adobe Flash Player for Mac - Where to Get the Uninstaller - User Tip

Apr 8, 2021 7:58 AM in response to markos80

markos80 Said:

"Adobe Flash Player: Just deleted the Adobe Flash Player I need something new to view my content in my electronic medical records such as X-rays and pictures What do I use? Need help quickly DrK"

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Open them with a Web Browser:

Nowadays, Web browsers have Flash encoded into them. So, try opening it with a Web browser.

  1. Right-Click: on the file
  2. Hover Over: open with
  3. Select: Safari

Apr 9, 2021 2:22 PM in response to markos80

markos80 Said:

"Adobe Flash Player: Just deleted the Adobe Flash Player I need something new to view my content in my electronic medical records such as X-rays and pictures What do I use? Need help quickly DrK"

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Did the Apple Recomeneded answer work? I am eager to find out. Please reply, as it would help many, for certain, when it comes to Flash on a Mac.

Apr 12, 2021 4:09 PM in response to markos80

Within the macOS you could try to have Preview application open and run Flash Player content.

(Should do so automatically: Unless embedded with other depreciated unusable content/code.)


• Adobe Flash Player - End of Life (2020) "Q & A reference"

https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html


Most web browsers, can open files such as those HTML5, maybe Flash? On desktop; try drag/drop

on to 'empty window' in Firefox to see what it does. Sometimes used to open them, even offline.


May 3, 2021 8:56 AM in response to issyrobin

issyrobin wrote:

is there a reason to uninstall? will it cause a problem if I don't? does it take up a lot of space? I'm not a professional... I own a MacBook Air, iPad, and iPhone 11


Best to remove unsupported apps, and particularly those apps tied to your browser, or that are accessible to your network.


Adobe was perpetually chasing security problems within their Adobe Flash implementation, and it's unclear how robust Adobe's efforts to try to disable Flash might be.


Microsoft Silverlight is another long-unsupported package tied into many browsers, and that too is best removed. The last remaining supported Silverlight platform is Microsoft Internet Explorer, and support for that configuration ends in October 2021. On macOS, support ended with Firefox 52, Safari 12, and Chrome 45; a very long time ago.


Flash and Silverlight are Mac apps.


Flash and Silverlight were never available on iPad or iPhone.


And yes, babowa meant to write "Absolutely yes, you should uninstall."

May 3, 2021 7:53 PM in response to TheLittles

That says you became aware again, as recent as this year.

And worth mentioning again; in this thread, on first page.


While nearly seven years ago, I'd suggested to other users

to not take stock in alleged need to even use Flash Player.


Early this year, given renewed interest within ASC late

December and early January, a belated re-awareness...


• Q: "is it safe to uninstall flash player by clicking 'uninstall' from the popup window?" - ASC

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252275591?answerId=254307246022#254307246022


...had became resurgent again; since those older answers

have all gone, like many setting suns ~ below the Horizon..


• Adobe Flashplayer support ending 12/31/2020

{A search engine can dredge 'proof-of-participation' far older.}


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