Anyone noticing VO2max declining as fitness improves?

My temporary location for the past few months provided the opportunity to climb a steep trail which, at my speed, was roughly 20 minutes up. A mid-point plateau provides an opportunity to climb the hill 1x, 1.5, 2x and so forth. In climbing this hill several times a week over a period of months, I watched my objective and subjective fitness metrics improve, including 2-minute heart rate recovery, climb speed, perceived oxygen deficit and breathing rate, and heart rate for a given rate of climb. In short, the hill — difficult at first — became easy and I had to push harder and harder to get a good workout.


At the same time, according to my Apple Series 6 watch, my fitness as indicated by VO2max steadily declined, not by a great deal but by six points over a period of a few months.


Have others encountered this problem? If so, have you found any fixes or workarounds? This is a persistent problem over many months and weekly reboots. I do not think it is related to pairing.

Posted on Apr 25, 2021 3:22 PM

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Posted on Apr 26, 2021 11:03 AM

Hi there FlyBoyMcCall,


It appears that you're not getting consistent measurements from the VO2 max recorded is dropping slightly while hiking a steep trail. We understand how the importance of measuring your Cardio Fitness, and we're glad to provide assistance.


Use the Health app on your iPhone or iPod touch - Apple Support -- Since your cardio fitness level relies heavily on your age, sex, weight, height and medications that may affect your hear rate, make sure your Health Profile matches your current physical condition.


Calibrating your Apple Watch for improved Workout and Activity accuracy - Apple Support -- Your Apple Watch Series 6 may also need calibrating. 


Also recommended:

  • In order to get the correct Cardio Fitness levels reports, the workout should take place on relatively flat ground as anything over a 5% grade can also cause this gradual decline for VO2 max. 
  • When you're working out, be sure that you're not holding anything in the hand that's wearing your watch. 
  • Power Saving mode should be turned off: iPhone > Apple Watch app > My Watch > Workout.
  • Heart Rate and Fitness Tracking are both enabled under iPhone Settings > Privacy > Heart Rate and Fitness Tracking are both enabled.
  • Make sure that you're able to see your GPS route in the Workout Summary.


Feel free to get back to us with any questions or problems you may have.


All the best.

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Apr 26, 2021 11:03 AM in response to FlyBoyMcCall

Hi there FlyBoyMcCall,


It appears that you're not getting consistent measurements from the VO2 max recorded is dropping slightly while hiking a steep trail. We understand how the importance of measuring your Cardio Fitness, and we're glad to provide assistance.


Use the Health app on your iPhone or iPod touch - Apple Support -- Since your cardio fitness level relies heavily on your age, sex, weight, height and medications that may affect your hear rate, make sure your Health Profile matches your current physical condition.


Calibrating your Apple Watch for improved Workout and Activity accuracy - Apple Support -- Your Apple Watch Series 6 may also need calibrating. 


Also recommended:

  • In order to get the correct Cardio Fitness levels reports, the workout should take place on relatively flat ground as anything over a 5% grade can also cause this gradual decline for VO2 max. 
  • When you're working out, be sure that you're not holding anything in the hand that's wearing your watch. 
  • Power Saving mode should be turned off: iPhone > Apple Watch app > My Watch > Workout.
  • Heart Rate and Fitness Tracking are both enabled under iPhone Settings > Privacy > Heart Rate and Fitness Tracking are both enabled.
  • Make sure that you're able to see your GPS route in the Workout Summary.


Feel free to get back to us with any questions or problems you may have.


All the best.

Apr 26, 2021 11:19 AM in response to SnickZ.

Thank you for responding @SnickZ. Unfortunately, this checklist contains some of the many items I worked through in arriving at my conclusion. Your first bullet re-states my findings; i.e., Apple Watch's VO2max is not functional unless on level ground and exercising at a steady rate. For that subset of people who exercise on tracks and sidewalks, etc. Apple's VO2max could be a useful relative change indicator, even if the VO2max showing is not that close to a true VO2max. Unfortunately, if one attempts to use it on hills or uneven terrain, it will not be useful even as an indicator of relative change. Perhaps that shortcoming can be addressed in a future upgrade. For example, knowing body mass and velocity, adding elevation change into the energy expenditure side of the algorithm would not seem to be too difficult; definitely not difficult theoretically.

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