Apostrophes and quotation marks

shlook wrote:

I tried this solution before. First off, it's not comfortable to switch to another lanhgage everytime I want to type an apostrophe or a quotation mark.

I suggest you try switching to the Hebrew PC keyboard. I think it has the Latin apostrophe and quote marks on the W key and over at the right side of the middle row, as shown below:

As for Word, I think its spell check may be buggy. Hebrew uses Latin quotation marks (it has none of its own) and their presence should not be signaled as a spelling error. The Latin apostrophe is more debatable, since geresh is the right way to do it, but still it is a common substitution and should probably be accepted.

For info on switching keyboards, see

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/type-language-mac-input-sources-mchlp1406/11.0/mac/11.0

Howdy,

I don't use a Hebrew keyboard, but it sounds like you have Smart Quotes enabled.

…replace straight quotes with “curly” quotes (called smart quotes).

If you don't want to use Smart Quotes you can disable them, and you may need to look in several places.

Start with System Preferences > Keyboard > Text > [ ] Use Smart quotes and dashes.

And also various Apps you use.

Like TextEdit > Preferences > New Document > [ ] Smart quotes, and [ ] Smart quotes and dashes in rich text documents only

Pages > Preferences > Auto-Correction > [ ] Use smart quotes and dashes.

Of course check the Preferences for other Apps you use.

ivan

shlook wrote: When I type the name George on Mac it looks like that: ג׳ורג׳ – regardless of the font used, but in Windows it looks like that: 'ג'ורג.

My understanding is that for the best typography, the example you give, George, should ideally be typed with Geresh if that character is available, but that Apostrophe is sometimes used as a replacement. If a font designed specifically for Hebrew is used, you may find that the Apostrophe has been made to look just like the Geresh, as shown below:

The shape of those marks is determined by the font. There should be no difference between the actual characters created on either Mac or Windows (if you are talking about geresh and gershayim, U+5f3, U+5f4). Has someone told you that searching on Windows does not work?

Do you want English apostrophes and quote marks? Which Hebrew keyboard layout are you using?

PS If you really do want to use English (ascii) punctuation marks, on the keyboard called "Hebrew", you can find them on the usual English key at the right end of the middle row after you hit Caps Lock.

If you are using Hebrew PC or Hebrew Qwerty, let me know.

shlook wrote:

I'm just using the regular Hebrew keyboard that comes with Mac (also on iPhone).

I don't want the English curly quotes. Just the same upright apostrophes and quotes as on Windows.

To make the upright marks with the keyboard called "Hebrew " (there are two other keyboards supplied by Apple on a Mac), hit the Caps Lock key. After doing that, you will find ' and " at their usual (English keyboard) place at the right end of the middle row. To go back to Hebrew, hit caps lock again.

Let us know if that works for you and if it solves the search problem.

For the iPhone/iPad I will post later.

shlook wrote:

(also on iPhone).

I don't want the English curly quotes. Just the same upright apostrophes and quotes as on Windows.

On an iPhone/iPad screen keyboard, tap the 123 button and then press and hold the keys that show quote marks. You should get a popup menu where you can choose the straight ones that you want.

Also from Replace text and punctuation in documents on Mac

If you’re working in an app, you can also choose Edit > Substitutions > Show Substitutions, then choose Smart Quotes and Smart Dashes.

Thanks, good to know. Glad Tom's here to help. ivan out.