Cloning HDD in my old MacBook Air, then using that cloned HDD inside a newer MacBook Pro. Would this work?

Hi all,


My old MacBook Air is on its last legs and has not been receiving OS and Apple app updates for a number of years. I’ve been given a much newer (second hand) MacBook Pro, which needs a new hard drive and an increase in RAM - both of which I’m happy to get on with.


But, my old Air has lots of software, files etc that I want to move across. So I’m thinking the best option is to clone the Air’s hard drive onto the new SSD I’ve ordered for the Pro.


My question therefore is, am I correct to think that even though the two macs have different hardware inside, the cloned SSD will boot and run the Pro without issue and allow me to then update the macOS and other App Store apps? Or do I need to copy files across and seek out all the software and redownload it all onto the Pro?


Thanks in advance.

Posted on May 3, 2021 2:06 PM

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Posted on May 3, 2021 9:42 PM

It all depends on the OS running on the old MBAir and the exact model of the newer laptop.


It may be easier and safer to perform a clean install of macOS on the newer Mac, then migrating your stuff over. Keep in mind that the newer OS may not be able to run some of your older apps without those apps first being updated. If you run macOS 10.15 Catalina on the newer Mac, then you need to know that any 32 bit apps on the old MBAir will not work unless you can update them to 64 bit versions. There are some limitations to using Migration/Setup Assistant for migrating apps since it doesn't transfer the software license for some third party proprietary software like MS Office. In fact it is unlikely older versions MS Office will even work on the newer OS without purchasing the newest version.


32-bit app compatibility with macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 and later - Apple Support


If you choose to clone the drive, then Carbon Copy Cloner is a good choice as it is very easy to use and I've never had any problems with it.


I'm assuming the newer Mac is a non-Retina model since you mention a memory upgrade. Macs are very picky about the memory they use so make sure to only purchase memory from Crucial or OWC. Make sure to use the tools on their respective websites to get the exact part numbers that are compatible with your Mac.


Make sure to install an SSD as that will be a good performance boost, but stay away from the cheap low end models as they are as slow as a hard drive. The Crucial MX500 series SSD is a good choice as it is a good compromise on price & performance. Stay away from the Crucial BX500 series as it is a low end budget economy model that is as slow as a hard drive and tends to overheat easily. Many SSDs today are unfortunately low end models so be very careful. It is also extremely difficult to distinguish between the good SSDs and low end models these days as the manufacturers are trying to trick consumers. Don't rely on reviews from even one or two years ago as some of these SSDs may have changed without a corresponding change in their model numbers. Yes, the SSD manufacturers are that sneaky!


If the newer Mac is a Retina model, then you cannot upgrade the RAM and you need to know that the Retina laptops use a proprietary Apple PCIe SSD connector. If the laptop never had macOS 10.13+ installed, then you will not be able to use an NVMe SSD.


You need to make sure that the newer Mac does not have a firmware password lock enabled. You can do this by holding down the Option key just after the startup chime. I highly recommend installing macOS on the newer Mac to see if you get any notice about the newer laptop being managed. If so, then return the laptop for a refund unless you can get the previous owner to remove the firmware lock or have the laptop removed from the management system of the school or business. I would perform another clean install of macOS (erase the whole physical drive) to make sure you are not presented with a message about the laptop being managed.


Another benefit of installing macOS is it should update the system firmware on the off chance the system firmware never got upgraded properly by the previous owner.

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May 3, 2021 9:42 PM in response to happy kayaker

It all depends on the OS running on the old MBAir and the exact model of the newer laptop.


It may be easier and safer to perform a clean install of macOS on the newer Mac, then migrating your stuff over. Keep in mind that the newer OS may not be able to run some of your older apps without those apps first being updated. If you run macOS 10.15 Catalina on the newer Mac, then you need to know that any 32 bit apps on the old MBAir will not work unless you can update them to 64 bit versions. There are some limitations to using Migration/Setup Assistant for migrating apps since it doesn't transfer the software license for some third party proprietary software like MS Office. In fact it is unlikely older versions MS Office will even work on the newer OS without purchasing the newest version.


32-bit app compatibility with macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 and later - Apple Support


If you choose to clone the drive, then Carbon Copy Cloner is a good choice as it is very easy to use and I've never had any problems with it.


I'm assuming the newer Mac is a non-Retina model since you mention a memory upgrade. Macs are very picky about the memory they use so make sure to only purchase memory from Crucial or OWC. Make sure to use the tools on their respective websites to get the exact part numbers that are compatible with your Mac.


Make sure to install an SSD as that will be a good performance boost, but stay away from the cheap low end models as they are as slow as a hard drive. The Crucial MX500 series SSD is a good choice as it is a good compromise on price & performance. Stay away from the Crucial BX500 series as it is a low end budget economy model that is as slow as a hard drive and tends to overheat easily. Many SSDs today are unfortunately low end models so be very careful. It is also extremely difficult to distinguish between the good SSDs and low end models these days as the manufacturers are trying to trick consumers. Don't rely on reviews from even one or two years ago as some of these SSDs may have changed without a corresponding change in their model numbers. Yes, the SSD manufacturers are that sneaky!


If the newer Mac is a Retina model, then you cannot upgrade the RAM and you need to know that the Retina laptops use a proprietary Apple PCIe SSD connector. If the laptop never had macOS 10.13+ installed, then you will not be able to use an NVMe SSD.


You need to make sure that the newer Mac does not have a firmware password lock enabled. You can do this by holding down the Option key just after the startup chime. I highly recommend installing macOS on the newer Mac to see if you get any notice about the newer laptop being managed. If so, then return the laptop for a refund unless you can get the previous owner to remove the firmware lock or have the laptop removed from the management system of the school or business. I would perform another clean install of macOS (erase the whole physical drive) to make sure you are not presented with a message about the laptop being managed.


Another benefit of installing macOS is it should update the system firmware on the off chance the system firmware never got upgraded properly by the previous owner.

May 4, 2021 9:53 AM in response to happy kayaker

You can always try the clone since you can just erase the new SSD again (make sure to erase the whole physical drive instead of just the volume or Container). It is just a matter of whether you want to take the time to try it.


I would suggest making a bootable macOS USB installer so you have more options if something goes wrong. While Internet Recovery Mode is nice it can be extremely slow and unpredictable. Sometimes Internet Recovery Mode will only boot to the oldest macOS installer available even though you are using the keys to boot the latest macOS online installer. Plus if the migration or setup goes wrong it will be much faster to start over using the USB installer than Internet Recovery Mode.


I would only perform one upgrade at a time just to make it easier to troubleshoot if the laptop doesn't work correctly for some reason. The two most likely issues you can encounter is a defective hard drive SATA Cable (very common to fail on the 13" model especially when used with an SSD), or a bad memory slot (the one nearest the Bottom Case tends to develop cracked solder joints after years of use).


Good luck with the upgrade and resurrection of this good old laptop.


May 4, 2021 3:11 AM in response to HWTech

Thank you for your detailed reply, it’s really helped me get my head around it. The newer Mac is not a retina and is not managed - it’s from a friend who has limited knowledge when it comes to technology. I already had erased and installed Mac OS Catalina (which is the newest OS it can cope with - a couple of iterations newer than the Air). It’s very very slow. Running diagnostics on the machine, backed up with EtreCheck, the hard drive is failing. It also has the lowest RAM configuration. I used the crucial system scanner have have ordered the RAM and SSD - with a little panic that I had ordered the model you said to stay away from, thankfully I had ordered the MX500 type.


I’ve decided I will not try and clone - I can see and agree with your points. One last question: I assume that if I swap the RAM and HD to the SSD in the PRO, I then just turn it on pressing cmd+R (I think it is) and then just let it download the Mac OS, then once finished, set it up as new? Or should I get a SATA to USB adapter and install the Mac OS onto it, before installing inside the PRO? I only really want to open the back up once. EDIT: actually I ended up having to make a USB bootable OS install for the existing HD as this was the only way to install it. I will make another one, with the newer Mac OS, just in case it is needed.


Thanks again.

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