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Photos and Big Sur Update

Last Sunday I updated 3 machines to Big Sur, all of which had their Photos library on an external drive.


After the upgrade and upon starting Photos for the first time, the app went through its reconciliation motions with messages flashing across the screen as it progressed: Composing Layout > Gathering Favorites > Analyzing Scenes > Detecting Duplicates > Curating Best Photos > and back up again.


The oldest machine which was connected to its Photos library via USB 3 had its fan run the loudest and finished the soonest, clocking around 3 hours. The newest machine that was connected via Thunderbolt ran overnight. The middle machine, is still running (almost 5 days) - this too connects to its external drive Photos library via USB3. The 3 libraries are almost similar in size and type of media.


I have shut down the still running machine a couple times, run First Aid twice on the external drive (and everything checked out each time) in the last few days and even tried leaving it on for several hours with Caffeine to override sleep etc. but no luck.. seemingly no failures as I have not received any errors and I am able to run other applications as needed - even intensive ones such as Adobe Premiere. Is there a glitch or do I just need to give it another week?

Posted on Jun 3, 2021 1:28 PM

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Posted on Jun 20, 2021 5:15 PM

I gave up - Apple has decided that it must curate all the metadata and I don't have a way to prevent that - hence they didn't expose a setting :) Rather silly of me to try to want to keep this private!!

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Jun 3, 2021 11:28 PM in response to belcantoCali

You may need to give it time. It is also possible that shutting down the machine, and/or running first aid may have restarted the process, so it may not have been running for as long as you think.


Double check also that the USB port you are plugged into is USB 3 and not USB2.


As an alternative, you could plug the drive into one of the machines that has already successfully updated its library, and open the library from that photos to see if it runs any quicker on the other machines. (Assuming all machines are on the same version of Big Sur.

Jun 4, 2021 5:36 AM in response to TonyCollinet

The port is USB3 and I will let it run through tonight. If it isn't done by tomorrow I think I want to try your suggestion of running it against one of the other machines.


If I'm following you correctly, and it does sound logical, that maybe the "faster" machine can index the Photos library on this drive and append whatever metadata Big Sur Photos feels it needs in a library and then when I plug this library back into the "slower machine" the Photos app there will be able to read the "ready" library and realize that it doesn't have to do any more sorting.


I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for the tip!

Jun 4, 2021 7:01 AM in response to belcantoCali

What kind of Macs are you using? iMacs or portable Macs? On a pietable Mac ghe loop of “analysing scenes” etc will be paused, as soon as the mac is running on battery power. It will depend on the size of the library how long it will take. For my main library with 50000 photos it took several months to complete and it will start over again, whenever you import new photos or add adjustments and metadata to Photos. The analysis may hang, if you have videos or photos in your library, that Photos 6 on Big Sur can no longer process.

Jun 4, 2021 12:34 PM in response to léonie

Thank you for your insight!


2 are MBPs and 1 an iMac. The one that is still running, is the newest machine, is a MBP but I have had it plugged in (not on battery that is) since last Sunday

The libraries are the similar across all 3 external drives, both stills and motion - in fact the oldest MBP which fiinished first (and was running against a USB3 drive not Thunderbolt) had the most amount of media, both stills and motion.


Maybe I'll let Caffeine run so it doesn't go to sleep and if it isn't don't by tomorrow AM then try indexing it on one of the other machines (like the suggestion from TonyCollinet above).


Appreciate any suggestions!

Jun 4, 2021 1:08 PM in response to belcantoCali

I have not yet used Caffein on Big Sur, so I don't know, if the most recent version has been updated to work well with Big Sur’s energy saver and battery management. Has the version you are using been designed for Big Sur? If not, try also without a third party app in the loop. On my Mac it turned out the older videos snd dome Live Photos created by third party apps gave ben blocking the analysis of the Library and made it hang at 90%. I tested the videos snd Live Photis by importing them in small groups to a new library. If the curation cojld be completed in the new library, I left thrr er m in the old library. But if the videos could not be analyzed in the new library, I removed them from the old library and replaced them by a converted version.

Photos and Big Sur Update

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