Artists listed twice tried album info but not fixed

I am trying to clean up my library of 7k albums. I am at the B's and tried everything I can think of under artist or album info. When I change it and hit ok it still is left the same. For example under The Beach Boys right below it I have Beach Boys, The. Here are some screen shots. Remember on the 2nd listing I DID change the errors ie Beach Boys, The in sorting & 1st page to no effect.

Posted on Jun 17, 2021 3:28 PM

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Posted on Jun 18, 2021 8:21 AM

There are two distinct things to address:

    1. the album artist in your first screenshot
    2. the two Sort As fields in your second screenshot


The first one: the Album Artist in your first screenshot.

That's the field that's causing the artist name to the right of the album artwork to say Beach Boys, The. If you have tried changing the album artist field but it hasn't stuck, that suggests that the song, or one of the folders in the song-file path, is Read-only. To test this out, check any one song that is causing the issue - don't change anything for now:

    • in iTunes, right-click a song (that's causing issues) and click on Show in Windows Explorer
    • in the pop-up that appears, look on the General tab at the Read-only attribute

    • if it has a tick in the box, then it's set as Read-only, which is why you cannot change it in iTunes
    • if the song is not set to Read-only, then you now need to check each of the folders in the path of that file to see whether any of them are set to Read-only
    • you may need to confirm that all songs on an album are set the same way - i.e. all Read-only, or all not Read-only. If an album has a mixture, iTunes will almost certainly treat the complete album as Read-only
    • I am not sure what it means if there is a black box within the Read-only box. In my folders, I have several folders with a black box, but it doesn't appear to have stopped me altering the song's tags (fields)
    • once you identify where the issue is, then you can change it. From what you've told us so far, I gather this is affecting several songs/albums. In that case, the issue might be:
      • one or more folders in the path set to Read-only
      • both a folder and all the files set to Read-only
      • all files on an album set to Read-only

You will have to work that out for yourself.


Once you identify the exact folder or files causing the issue, tick on the relevant box to get rid of the tick.


The second one: the Sort As fields in your second screenshot.

By default, iTunes does not sort by the word the, or a leading A, and iTunes will automatically drop either term from the Sort As box, even though it remains in the main box. As you will have noticed in your second screenshot, the Album Artist/Sort As moves "the" to the end of the text, but in the Artist/Sort As, it removes the word "the". That's how iTunes works, you cannot change its behaviour.

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Jun 18, 2021 8:21 AM in response to bfallona

There are two distinct things to address:

    1. the album artist in your first screenshot
    2. the two Sort As fields in your second screenshot


The first one: the Album Artist in your first screenshot.

That's the field that's causing the artist name to the right of the album artwork to say Beach Boys, The. If you have tried changing the album artist field but it hasn't stuck, that suggests that the song, or one of the folders in the song-file path, is Read-only. To test this out, check any one song that is causing the issue - don't change anything for now:

    • in iTunes, right-click a song (that's causing issues) and click on Show in Windows Explorer
    • in the pop-up that appears, look on the General tab at the Read-only attribute

    • if it has a tick in the box, then it's set as Read-only, which is why you cannot change it in iTunes
    • if the song is not set to Read-only, then you now need to check each of the folders in the path of that file to see whether any of them are set to Read-only
    • you may need to confirm that all songs on an album are set the same way - i.e. all Read-only, or all not Read-only. If an album has a mixture, iTunes will almost certainly treat the complete album as Read-only
    • I am not sure what it means if there is a black box within the Read-only box. In my folders, I have several folders with a black box, but it doesn't appear to have stopped me altering the song's tags (fields)
    • once you identify where the issue is, then you can change it. From what you've told us so far, I gather this is affecting several songs/albums. In that case, the issue might be:
      • one or more folders in the path set to Read-only
      • both a folder and all the files set to Read-only
      • all files on an album set to Read-only

You will have to work that out for yourself.


Once you identify the exact folder or files causing the issue, tick on the relevant box to get rid of the tick.


The second one: the Sort As fields in your second screenshot.

By default, iTunes does not sort by the word the, or a leading A, and iTunes will automatically drop either term from the Sort As box, even though it remains in the main box. As you will have noticed in your second screenshot, the Album Artist/Sort As moves "the" to the end of the text, but in the Artist/Sort As, it removes the word "the". That's how iTunes works, you cannot change its behaviour.

Jun 18, 2021 10:32 AM in response to the fiend

Thanks for a clear well thought out reply. I have tired iTunes, Media Monkey & Winamp. While all have issues iTunes is still my favorite. I never gave a thought to read only in Explorer. A nice tip in Explorer, you can click on the top of the folder ie The Beach Boys & click the box to get rid of read only then there is an option already ticked to do that to ALL the subfolders too. That fixed it. But in Windows Explorer it shows 33 albums for BBoys. So I deleted it out of iTunes and did add folder. Now I have only 6 albums - lol.

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