Using FindMy to track stolen Mac

Here's something I don't understand:


If my MacBook Pro is set up to use FindMy and someone steals it, they can't log on without my Mac password. They also can't connect to their own wifi as the Mac won't allow this until it's been logged on.


So how can I track the MacBook Pro using FindMy as it won't be able to connect to the Internet?

Posted on Jul 12, 2021 2:37 AM

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Posted on Jul 12, 2021 3:39 AM

Use the Find My app to locate a missing device or item


Specifically this section from above


See it on a map

  1. Open the Find My app.
  2. Choose the Devices or Items tab.
  3. Select the device or item to see its location on the map. If you belong to a Family Sharing group, you can see the devices in your group.
  4. Choose Directions to open its location in Maps.

If you turn on Find My network, you can see your device or item's location even if it's not connected to a Wi-Fi or cellular network. The Find My network is an encrypted anonymous network of hundreds of millions of Apple devices that can help you locate your device or item. 


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Jul 12, 2021 3:39 AM in response to The_Knowledge_Seeker

Use the Find My app to locate a missing device or item


Specifically this section from above


See it on a map

  1. Open the Find My app.
  2. Choose the Devices or Items tab.
  3. Select the device or item to see its location on the map. If you belong to a Family Sharing group, you can see the devices in your group.
  4. Choose Directions to open its location in Maps.

If you turn on Find My network, you can see your device or item's location even if it's not connected to a Wi-Fi or cellular network. The Find My network is an encrypted anonymous network of hundreds of millions of Apple devices that can help you locate your device or item. 


Jul 12, 2021 4:44 AM in response to The_Knowledge_Seeker

Good Question :-))


Lame explanation here - in the context - newer laptop computer, automatically turn On the moment the lid is opened. So, should the device be misplaced, stolen or lost - at the moment the lid is opened, even if awaking from sleep - it will become visible in the FindMy application regardless if connected to not.


Now, will concede to more Learned Contributor(s) on this, should one or more pickup this question.

Jul 12, 2021 5:18 AM in response to The_Knowledge_Seeker

Very good question.


I suspect - albeit w/o any rock-solid basis or personal testing - that it’s at least partially dependent on Apple’s “Offline Finding” capability; whereby it uses the device’s bluetooth to geolocate using other “cooperating” devices. (same method used to geolocate “out of own device range” AirTags)


From my research, this bluetooth beacon apparently “fires up” anytime the computer is powered-on.


Obviously for this to work, “the planets would have to be aligned” device and comms-wise …


… but going forward, Apple’s iOS 15 release infers that the system will keep this - or some other flavor - “beaconing” active even when devices are turned “off.”


I’ve personally tested that offline-finding system DOES INDEED work w/ a “lost” not on any network WiFi-only iPad … haven’t tried it w/ my MacBook (yet).


There is an interesting discussion of the general methodology in two Apple Platform Security articles starting here:


(BTW, the cryptologic methods used are indeed BRILLIANT)


https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/web



Jul 12, 2021 4:21 AM in response to Owl-53

I'm confused. the page you referred me to said "If you turn on Find My network, you can see your device or item's location even if it's not connected to a Wi-Fi or cellular network. The Find My network is an encrypted anonymous network of hundreds of millions of Apple devices that can help you locate your device or item. "


But in this example, the Mac in question had been in hibernation for a few weeks and it did not appear on FindMy. Only by waking the Mac up did it eventually update FindMy.


So are we saying that it works in the same way as the Apple AirTags? i.e. they only need nearby access to Bluetooth to establish a connection?


(Those AirTags are brilliant; they are protecting my keys right now!)

Jul 12, 2021 12:41 PM in response to Chattanoogan

An interesting point worthy of examination.

While theoretically possible, would not doing so offline require a substantial database of terrestrial WAP geo-locations to be at least semi-permanently resident in the device?

If it was completely offline, yes. From all the other posts, it doesn't appear that it is completely offline. Sounds like it might be able to go, "hey buddy, I can see this stuff. Can you help a brother out?"

All of it sounds interesting, but I want no way to know how as it would open up the capability to defeat.

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