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Mac Pro 2019: Mouse CURSOR freezes every few minutes

Hello Mac community!


The cursor on my Mac Pro 2019 freezes at irregular intervals for a few seconds at a time. I saw other posts on this, but they appear related to a specific application, low computer specs vis a vis workload, or hard drive failures. Details that might be relevant in my case:


  • I haven't been able to identify if any application is the cause of this; it seems to happen with nothing else running and nothing particularly strange taking place in Activity Monitor. However, even though I tested this after closing open applications and the issue was still present, I can't say for sure that a specific previously open application doesn't cause the issue to start. I usually have at least Ableton Live, Chrome, Spotify, Splice, and a few other small things running.
  • Restarting the Mac helps 100% of the time but the issue comes back, sometimes shortly after and sometimes a day or two later.
  • First Aid in Disk Utility hasn't found any errors.
  • I have both the magic mouse and trackpad. When the freeze occurs, neither device is able to move the cursor. I have noticed something weird about the trackpad - even at 100% it often doesn't immediately connect to the Mac, and it has had very hard time reading multi finger motions recently - after I try them a few times, it seems to "come back" to normal and works just fine.
  • Most of the stuff I'm running when the issue occurs runs fine on an old MacBook Pro 2017, so a high end Mac Pro 2019 shouldn't have any issues with the workload.
  • I'm running:
    • 2.5 GHz 28-Core
    • 256 GB 2933 Mhz DDR4
    • AMD Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB
    • Big Sur 11.4, BUT -- the issue has been happening since before I installed Big Sur.


Does anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot?


Thank you!

Posted on Jul 25, 2021 10:06 AM

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Posted on Aug 25, 2021 7:17 AM

Cursor-position updates are done at low priority in the background. So the first suspect is that you are running something, such as a virus scanner, or third-party file syncer that is using up all the spare CPU cycles, leaving no compute power to update the cursor.


We have been surprised at how badly some of this junk-ware responds when its drive is suddenly 100 times or more faster than the drive used to create it. Really weird things happen. In a Mac as powerful as the 2019 Mac Pro, while it is possible to use up all the CPU cycles, it does not seem likely.


Next is the likelihood of a bad connection of your wireless pointer devices. Bluetooth uses the very crowded and interference-prone 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi band, but does frequency-hopping to dodge the 2.4 GHZ Wi-Fi data. If you live in an apartment building with lots of neighbors' Routers close by, this could be an issue.


Next on the list is USB-3. This technology is known to create noise on the 2.4GHz band in ordinary operation, and poorly-shielded peripherals and cables are a known problem that has no easy fix.


Too close to Your Router could contribute to this issue, as the signals very close to the Router are really "loud" and moving just a few feet away may provide relief.


Certain Displays, including some by LG, have been known to emit a very high level of noise in the 2.4GHz band, so getting away from the display and its cabling may help. [LG had an earlier recall so they should be especially sensitive to this issue, having been burned before.]


To cut down this list, you could try removing some possible interference generators.

If no joy, test with a WIRED pointing device and keyboard.

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Aug 25, 2021 7:17 AM in response to Flakstone

Cursor-position updates are done at low priority in the background. So the first suspect is that you are running something, such as a virus scanner, or third-party file syncer that is using up all the spare CPU cycles, leaving no compute power to update the cursor.


We have been surprised at how badly some of this junk-ware responds when its drive is suddenly 100 times or more faster than the drive used to create it. Really weird things happen. In a Mac as powerful as the 2019 Mac Pro, while it is possible to use up all the CPU cycles, it does not seem likely.


Next is the likelihood of a bad connection of your wireless pointer devices. Bluetooth uses the very crowded and interference-prone 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi band, but does frequency-hopping to dodge the 2.4 GHZ Wi-Fi data. If you live in an apartment building with lots of neighbors' Routers close by, this could be an issue.


Next on the list is USB-3. This technology is known to create noise on the 2.4GHz band in ordinary operation, and poorly-shielded peripherals and cables are a known problem that has no easy fix.


Too close to Your Router could contribute to this issue, as the signals very close to the Router are really "loud" and moving just a few feet away may provide relief.


Certain Displays, including some by LG, have been known to emit a very high level of noise in the 2.4GHz band, so getting away from the display and its cabling may help. [LG had an earlier recall so they should be especially sensitive to this issue, having been burned before.]


To cut down this list, you could try removing some possible interference generators.

If no joy, test with a WIRED pointing device and keyboard.

Aug 24, 2021 12:46 PM in response to Flakstone

I have a very similar problem. Brand new Mac Pro 2019 with a Kensington Trackball. This is a recording studio machine in a school, we've been shut down since last march so haven't had much usage yet. Very little added software, mostly just Pro Tools and plug-ins, all audio related stuff. This problem has been from day 1 however, when you move the mouse, every so often the cursor stops tracking for a second or 2, then lurches back to normal.


I have included a screen recording of the mouse cursor, if it doesn't work, just use this link to see what I mean. : www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRg5nyQkDTI


Please understand, this is a video of me moving the mouse in a circle CONSISTENTLY, I am not changing at all the circular motion of my hand.


Also, the trackball is clean, works fine on other machines, and I have 3 identical Mac Pro's in different control rooms all running the same OS, all with the same problem with the same trackball.


Kensington Expertmouse (trackball)

Catalina 10.15.7

3.5 GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon W

32 GB 2666 MHz DDR4

AMD Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB

Oct 7, 2021 9:24 AM in response to Flakstone

Wanted to share my experience and lack of resolution as well.

I have a 2019 mac pro, 8 core processor, 256 GB ram, 2x LG ultrafine 5K monitors (27")


I have had issues with the mouse freezing randomly for some time, but also had many months with no issue at all. When I use a apple trackpad or included mouse/keyboard there are 0 issues. Always work even during a lockup on my primary mouse, a Logitech MX Master 2. I could literally reach over to trackpad and the cursor moves immediately while the primary mouse was unresponsive.


Currently I'm in a week where the mouse doesn't work at all, just locks up and jumps all over the screen.


I went so far as following a lengthy guide by Logitech to troubleshoot the connection which basically included, resetting pram/nvram etc. disconnecting everything, resetting the bluetooth and bluetooth module via Option+Shift click on the bluetooth icon in the menu bar. This had to be done at the apple store as I've long retired any usb input devices. They also ran a full diagnostic. At the apple store it worked fine after this process was completed. Came home and sure enough by the next day all the problems have returned. I'm back to using an awful magic mouse and questioning my mac purchase once again (sarcasm).


Hoping this is somehow remedied but unsure what to turn to as we are such a small sample of owners I doubt much attention will be paid by Apple.

Oct 7, 2021 12:30 PM in response to brechdofragen

Why do I have difficulty with Wi-Fi or Bluetooth devices when USB 3 devices are attached to my computer?

Some USB 3 devices can generate radio frequency interference that can cause Wi-Fi and Bluetooth devices operating in the 2.4GHz band to have issues communicating with your computer. Here are some tips to avoid this issue:

• If your USB device has a cable long enough that you can move the device, place it away from your Mac—and make sure not to place it behind your Mac, or near the hinge of its display. The antennas for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are located there, and USB 3 devices placed there might interfere with your wireless connections.

• If you're using adapters or dongles on a Mac computer with Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports, plug them into the front port on the left side of your Mac, or into the ports on the right side (if your computer has them). These ports are the farthest away from the antennas, making interference less likely.

• To avoid interference on the 2.4GHz band using Wi-Fi, try using the 5GHz band instead. You can change this on your wireless base station. Bluetooth always uses 2.4GHz, so this alternative isn't available for Bluetooth.

from:

About USB on Mac computers - Apple Support

Resolve Wi-Fi and Bluetooth issues caused by wireless interference

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201542


Oct 31, 2021 5:26 PM in response to brechdofragen

I will add one more thing to the comedy because *a;dslkfj*:


This is the only computer in the house that has constant issues with internet. I have spent the last few hours with verizon trouble shooting and no idea what's up. Side by side with other devices, some websites just won't load at speed or refuse to load altogether (e.g., facebook, occasionally reddit, etc.) - browser doesn't matter, time of day, restart or not, I tried everything.


For the same website, one of three things happens:

  1. infrastructure loads but video previews, pictures, etc. all freeze up and i get the browser loading animation
  2. website loads but it's just text links to everything that would normally be on the site
  3. it says i don't have internet, but when i hit reload, within a few seconds to a few minutes the site loads normally


I feel that if the internet didn't exist period I would be going nuts right now. is this a ghost??? what could possibly be wrong? Happy Halloween I guess.

Aug 24, 2021 5:28 AM in response to Brian_P7

The only bluetooth devices around are all Apple - my watch, phone, keyboard, magic trackpad, and the mouse. I've definitely not had phone and watch around when this happened, but I will confirm. However, the only thing I'll be able to test for the mouse is to turn off the key or trackpad at the time the mouse starts to freeze up again.


I'll post again once I catch the error and can test appropriately, but I'm traveling for a while so won't have the computer with me. If you have any ideas I should be ready to try if that doesn't work, please let me know. It is incredibly frustrating! :/

Aug 25, 2021 10:41 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

The Expertmouse is wired, usb to a powered USB3 hub.

Ethernet is wired, there is no router or wifi as we are on a gigabit LAN.

I had the same problem with an Apple Cinema display as I do now with a Samsung HDMI display.

There is no virus scan software or anything running significant background processes.

This has been the way it acts right out of the box, latest Kensington software installed on a fresh OS.

Mac Pro 2019: Mouse CURSOR freezes every few minutes

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