Will Audio Extractor work with Apple TV 4K 2021?

First

I understand I need to update my AVR but it's not in the cards right

right. So I'm running devices into my HDTV via HDMI and then Optical

cable out to my AVR (doesn't have HDMI just Optical). Anyway my old

Apple TV did have an Optical out but just not the new one.



Does anyone have any experience using an Audio Extractor with the new Apple

TV 4K 2021? I did read where one guy said he was using one successfully

until IOS 14.5 broke it. He was going to do further testing to see if it

was for sure 14.5 but he never posted back.

Posted on Jul 31, 2021 8:43 PM

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Aug 1, 2021 12:56 PM in response to Mike Coady

I can’t tell either. Their description wouldn’t be detailed enough for my buying decision. Maybe it works, maybe not. I’d buy from some other manufacturer. I would want to know the HDMI version and be sure of HDCP support. HDMI 1.3 and HDMI 1.4 are almost the same. The difference isn’t relevant for most users (Apple TV doesn’t feature 3D content anyway).

If you see a good deal on a 4K-capable extractor, then that would work fine too. It should be backwards compatible (unless the manufacturer states to the contrary).

Aug 1, 2021 5:14 AM in response to Urquhart1244

So maybe I better do a better job of explaining. I wired all this up years ago and it’s hard for me to decipher how things are connected as I’ve gotten older. Lol!


My TV Digital Optical is already ran to my AVR I’m guessing for audio to OTA antenna which I don’t use much anymore . So it would just be a matter of assigning TV sound to the Apple TV is that correct?


Since my Outlaw AVR is pretty old and if for some reason the Optical Out from TV doesn’t work… what Audio Extractor would I need for a 1080P TV to work with the 4K ATV?


Thanks by the way for replying and explaining my options!

Aug 1, 2021 2:38 PM in response to Mike Coady

My setup with an HDMI/toslink splitter was a couple of years ago with an ATV HD and a hifi. I now have an ATV 4K and stereo Homepods. I cannot easily test using the splitter with the ATV 4K and the old hifi system so, sorry, cannot provide an update.

BTW - For several years now I have watched OTA TV via the Apple TV using an HDHomerun tuner and the Channels app for ATV so I haven't needed to swap audio between devices. That was one reason for getting the splitter.

Aug 1, 2021 4:39 AM in response to Mike Coady

So I'm running devices into my HDTV via HDMI and then Optical cable out to my AVR (doesn't have HDMI just Optical).

That is fine. No need to split that from the Apple TV, when you can use TV audio passthrough, when the TV has optical-out.

Apple TV →[HDMI]→ TV →[optical]→ receiver


You could use an HDMI Audio Extractor, but often that won’t be necessary.

Apple TV →[HDMI]→ HDMI Audio Extractor →[HDMI]→ TV

↘︎[optical]→ receiver


Does anyone have any experience using an Audio Extractor with the new Apple TV 4K 2021?

There is no reason why that wouldn’t work. Just get a good one (supporting HDMI 2.0+HDCP 2.2 or HDMI 2.1+HDCP 2.3).


I did read where one guy said he was using one successfully until IOS 14.5 broke it. He was going to do further testing to see if it was for sure 14.5 but he never posted back.

[citation needed]. He was probably wrong about it. There is no logic in the system software having any influence over a standardized audio signal, when the signal has already left the source device, and is unaware of audio extractors.

Aug 1, 2021 8:58 AM in response to Mike Coady

Edit:

This is from my Samsung PN58C8000 manual:

(Digital Optical Audio Out)


*5.1 CH (channel) audio is available when the TV is connected to an external device supporting 5.1 CH

  • When the receiver (home theater) is set to on, you can hear sound output from the TV's optical jack. When the TV is receiving a DTV signal, the TV will send 5.1 CH sound to the home theater receiver. When the source is a digital component such as a DVD/Blu-ray player/cable box/STB satellite receiver and is connected to the TV via HDMI, only CH audio will be heard from the home theater receiver. If you want to hear 5.1 CH audio, connect the digital audio out jack from your DVD/Blu-ray/cable box, directly to an amplifier or home theater.


Isn't this saying I probably wouldn't want to use the TV digital optical out as an option?


Aug 1, 2021 9:42 AM in response to Mike Coady

Isn't this saying I probably wouldn't want to use the TV digital optical out as an option?

Ouch! Yes, you are right. What was Samsung thinking with this limitation of no 5.1 audio passthrough?

If your TV doesn’t support multichannel audio passthrough, then you might be better off using the HDMI Audio Extractor.

For a 1080p TV, a HDMI 1.4 Audio Extractor would be sufficient. HDMI 2.0/2.1 wouldn’t be necessary.

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