How do I disable the Noto fonts?

3d-Guy wrote:

I know the question came up before - but just leads to Fontbook manager.

The question has come up numerous times. Sometimes there are better answers than that.

Disabling isn´t available as it´s greyed out.´and deleting is prohibited. I don´t think I´ve ever need these fonts - so how can I disable them at least from appearing in my design apps? Funny-wise they don´t appear in Pages for instance.

Pages properly uses Apple's font APIs. Some 3rd party apps just scan your hard drives for fonts.

Any hints, tips&tricks, clues are most welcomed and appreciated.

Here is a solution: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252949959?answerId=255548390022#255548390022

Full disclosure: after seeing that answer, I wrote up an app of my own. I can't post a link to my own app, but it is listed in that thread. The link above is a free alternative.

Do you need to scroll at all? I don't normally use Affinity Apps - I use Adobe instead - but I just checked in Affinity Photo and like Adobe you can just type in the Font name and go there directly without scrolling:

MtD

Did you actually try Pixelmator Pro and do Format->Fonts->Show Fonts?

It does use Apple API and it works - though perhaps not exactly as you'd expect.

Use the Fonts window to make your selections.

As you can see, I created an example of a font collection using just two fonts. This collection is available to any app that uses this API, it is not specific to Pixelmator Pro.

As you say, there is no way to delete some of these fonts.

But the proper way ought to be to use Font Collections.

Using Font Book, create any collections with any combination of fonts you want. Then any properly programmed application should let you choose the Collection to use, and thus avoid these fonts that have no use for you (and me).

Apple knows about my system - so why does it annoys me with its extraneous font alternatives I can´t disable?

Apple doesn't build the font menus in apps. The App developer does. You need to ask them.

I wish I could tell you why Apple decided to start hiding fonts based on your language/region. It's easily one of the dumbest things they've ever done.

Anyone who deals with fonts daily know you NEED to see all or some of these fonts - when you NEED them - but otherwise want to disable all of them until then. That is now impossible with Font Book since it also hides fonts based on your language/region. Which makes it the most useless font manager on the planet.

If you're already using Rightfont or Typeface, both disable all of the fonts in the Supplemental folder. Typeface I can confirm does, but I had no luck with Rightfont though other users say it does. If you have neither of these, Font Menu Cleaner is by far the least expensive way to get the majority of these fonts out of your hair. You can turn any of them back on at any time when you need to.

What it can't do is disable fonts in the /System/Library/Fonts/ folder. No font manager can. Apple has those locked. Which means you'll still see six Noto Sans family groups after using Font Menu Cleaner, but that's a huge improvement over those plus the other 101 of these dumb things in the Supplemental folder.

3d-Guy wrote:

I know that and already mentioned it. I just can guess the devs who creates apps for multiple OSs do their own thing - which is understandable. But it doesnt explain why macOS don´t let me disable these sheer list of fonts that´s are clearly not made for my actual system.

Because you shouldn't be altering whatever the OS thinks it needs. You may not need it, and the OS may not need it, but you should not be the one deciding which needs to be disabled. Your app should present to you the Fonts you wish to use, not every font, everywhere.

3d-Guy wrote:

But it doesnt explain why macOS don´t let me disable these sheer list of fonts that´s are clearly not made for my actual system.

That is because these fonts are already disabled. Well, technically, they are hidden. When using Apple's official font APIs, there is absolutely nothing you can to do display these fonts. You have to go out of your way to find them, load them, and populate the font menu with them.

You will find many people on the internet telling you that this is Apple's fault, that Apple won't let you disable these fonts. That's simply false. These 3rd party apps are going out of their way to display these fonts, on purpose.

These fonts are designed to be there in case you ever do need them. You actually shouldn't be disabling them. I recognized how much of a problem this was for many people using these 3rd party fonts, so I wrote Font Menu Cleaner to disable these fonts. But the fact is, Apple does allow them to be disabled. That's how I did it. I used Apple's official font APIs. But I had to manually go out to the file system, find these fonts, and manually load them before I could disable them. This is a "lesser evil" approach. Ideally, 3rd party developers would read the documentation and use the proper font APIs. Had they done that, this would never have been a problem in the first place.

But I can! 🙂

Here's the link etresoft can't post himself.

https://fontmenucleaner.com/