Apple Mail Default font for authored email messages

Why does Apple not allow you to stylize your email messages with a default font like every other mail client? The mail app on MacOS has remained largely unchanged for 20 years. I can only assume that Apple thinks that fonts should never be used, ever and the font allowed in an email message should only be determined by the receiver. As long as I choose an email font and size for each and every email message individually it is allowed, but not by default. The Font selection in Preferences only show how you see messages that have no individually defined fonts. To see this, change your message font and see that your sent messages now show a different font.

Posted on Aug 26, 2021 3:03 PM

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Aug 27, 2021 5:26 PM in response to Old Toad

By default, all Apple Mail composed emails are in HTML. That HTML though, has no actual text styles, Except for predefined signatures and when the composer changes the font type or size or any other attributes. The program doesn’t prevent you from changing the font for every single email but you have to do that individually. Every email I get from Apple has a variety of different fonts and sizes. Why isn’t every email sent by Apple the same font size and type? By the way, I don’t use Apple’s MacOS Mail at all and I will not unless they adopt standard features that all other mail clients use. Even in mail on iOS, if you copy and paste text from a website like Wikipedia, there is no way to not paste the font type and size. By default I always want to match the Message font. In iOS mail, which I do use, also has no text attributes by default. The way around this problem is to share, copy and paste instead of simply copy and paste. On my Mac I have changed the default use of Command “V” in Apple Mail and every other app that uses Standard Apple APIs, to paste without attributes. Unfortunately my mail client doesn’t use the Apple standard APIs for pasting and I have to use the menus to paste.

Aug 27, 2021 10:17 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

Actually you are right, I just tested this. Even if the format is selected as rich text, the default. Not a single bit of HTML is sent. If you select the text of your message and type "COMMAND +" and hit "send" the message is transformed to HTML instantly. If you set no text attributes the message source shows plain text. With every other mail client this is not the case. This behavior is unique and I am sure has been the same since version 1.0 of mail, someone must be attached to this behavior, because any default font sent no matter how basic would preclude HTML. There is a way to force certain domains to only be sent plain text with the client I use. Some domains may only serve unix shell based email clients, still, to this day.


When I first used email, on a TCP-IP network connected to the early internet, the "world wide web" hadn't been invented yet; HTML hadn't been invented yet. Usenet was the closest thing we had to the WWW. Emojis were invented originally mostly on CompuServe's CB Simulator :-), this was the first chat service. There were Never more than 200 people chatting nationwide at any one time when I started using it on my TRS-80 in 1980. However old school I might have been, through osmosis mostly, my attitude towards EMAIL, WWW, ETC. has been tailored by the desktop publishing world.

Aug 29, 2021 1:24 PM in response to markfromlandolakes

markfromlandolakes wrote:

This behavior is unique and I am sure has been the same since version 1.0 of mail

HTML was added in MacOS 10.4. Before then Mail used RTF format for "rich text" if I remember right. How that behaved I don't know any more.

When I first used email, on a TCP-IP network connected to the early internet, the "world wide web" hadn't been invented yet;

Fascinating! My first email was via UUCP over a dialup into a VAX machine. The web was just coming online, I think I used Mosaic.

Aug 29, 2021 5:19 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

Actually the first VAX I used ran UNIX/32V not VMS. The second, and subsequent VAXes ran VMS. Actually my first Computer programming professor had worked for bell labs and knew Ken Thompson and the rest of the crew at Bell Labs that created UNIX. Unfortunately we learned pascal instead of “C”. Much later, I met the author of my VAX assembly text book on a cruise. He also happened to be an episcopal minister and was actually married at my church. Quite a few coincidences. I also met Ken Olson, DEC founder and Rear admiral Grace Hopper, author of the first compiler when I was still in high school. I was there when she was told she was being promoted from captain to rear admiral. (At the time called commodore.) I feel lucky to have met so many pioneers in the industry. I switched from CS to information management while still in school. My passions were helping organizations use technology efficiently and productively. An area that still has a long way to go. Connecting to end users was very important to me. I could sit forever watching happy people use the software I developed to do their jobs.

Aug 27, 2021 2:52 AM in response to markfromlandolakes

For Apple to see your request, you should go to


http://www.apple.com/feedback


Many people have made this complaint here over the years. As you mention, the fix for people who want to set a default outgoing font is to use another app (usually Outlook).


(Ironically, users who want to control the font in which they read their email also have to use another app like Outlook, because Mail does not offer the option to see only the plain text version of incoming messages.)



Aug 27, 2021 3:55 AM in response to markfromlandolakes

Of course you can choose the font. If you want to use plain text e-mails, that font is only for your viewing, and if you change it then all the messages will show that font. It makes total sense, because plain text does not have any specific font.

Perhaps you want to use “rich text” instead. In that case not only you can change the font but you can use more than one font.


Aug 27, 2021 4:37 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Luis Sequeira1 wrote:

Perhaps you want to use “rich text” instead. In that case not only you can change the font but you can use more than one font.

The problem is that choosing "rich text" in Mail's preferences does not actually let you set a default font for outgoings. They will still go out as plain text unless you set the font for each outgoing individually in the New Message pane. You can test this for yourself by doing View Message > Raw Source on a message in your Sent folder.

Aug 27, 2021 5:20 AM in response to markfromlandolakes

markfromlandolakes wrote:

Apple thinks that fonts should never be used, ever and the font allowed in an email message should only be determined by the receiver.

Apple isn’t the only one that thinks that. If messages are plain text, then they can easily be styled according to how the recipient wants to see them. This is very important for accessibility. Some people, like me, have trouble reading tiny fonts, colour fonts, or unusual typefaces. Plus, there is no support for custom fonts in HTML e-mail. If the user does have the desired font, then they get some fallback, which might not be what the recipient intended.


However, if you want a default font, this is easy to do. Just setup a default signature using whatever font you want.

Aug 27, 2021 5:32 AM in response to markfromlandolakes

markfromlandolakes wrote: It still doesn’t answer the question, “why does Apple not have a default font for composed messages, like every other mail client?”

In these forums you are only talking to other users like yourself, and none of us know why apple does anything, so the feedback channel is the route to go to ask for the changes you want.

Aug 27, 2021 5:38 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Everything you said is factual. It still doesn’t answer the question, “why does Apple not have a default font for composed messages, like every other mail client?” I suppose if they could they would make everybody’s handwriting identical. (Or better yet, look the same with no genitals, the way one noted comic describes Apple Store employees. LOL).

Aug 27, 2021 5:53 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

Some Apple devotees I know are annoyed by any font that isn’t Arial or Helvetica. These are not people that worked for Apple, just people that have met Steve Jobs and worship him to some extent. This also speaks to the ironic nature of not being able to by default view a message in plain text. I guess they also want to identify the non-conformists by their fancy (like Comic Sans) fonts. 😂 As far as Apple employees, many might think that their outgoing font is the message font. Really, the only reason I want the Apple Mail Client to do this, is, I don’t want to use a buggy 3rd party app. Which I do.

Aug 27, 2021 8:54 AM in response to markfromlandolakes

I appreciate the accessibility point that etresoft makes. For example, I have no longer a perfect vision. Plain text incoming e-mails are easy enough for me to read, because the are displayed in the font and size of my choice.

I heavily use e-mail, mostly for work. I would not appreciate having to resize everything I get so I could read it.


Consider that when you send a message: is the font and styling crucial to conveying your point? Fine, use rich text.

Otherwise, send your message as plain text, and let the receiver read it in the font of their choice. Concentrate on the content, rather than form.

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