Writing Metadata to Video Files to Search Using Finder

I have lots of video files (.mov and .mp4).

I assigned Finder tags to each file so I could easily locate what I needed with a simple Finder search. This worked great until I upgraded to a newer Mac. I didn't realize the Finder tags were specific to the computer. Now they are all gone and thousands of files need to be retagged. :(


In my preliminary research, I discovered that the comments you enter in the Cmd-I popup window are specific to Finder. Also, the keywords in the native Apple Photos app are specific to it. Oh, and Adobe Bridge Keywords don't help either.


This time around, I'm looking for a way to write my notes into the metadata so the information lives with the file and won't be lost when I move the files from one computer to another or on and off cloud storage.


I'm playing around with programs like MetaZ, Subler, MetaDoctor, etc. They are writing metadata somewhere, but it is not in the location that Finder looks when searching.


Here's what Finder let's me select for (what I thought were) metadata options to view.


Here is a screenshot of MetaDoctor and the fields it will let me affect (the field names are the same across the metadata editors I've tried).


Notice that the Finder metadata is named something different than the metadata listed in MetaDoctor.


For instance…

Finder MetaDoctor

Description Short Description & Long Description

Director Directors

Producer Producers

Encoding Software Encoding Tool & Encoded By

Genre iTunes Genre & User Genre


There are also several fields in MetaDoctor that are not in Finder, like…Actors, Artist, Screenwriters, etc.

And fields in Finder that are not in MetaDoctor, like…Keywords, Movie Information, etc.


I'm now convinced that these are two sets of metadata. According to MetaDoctor support, software like theirs is meant to edit iTunes metadata. (I didn't know there were different sets of metadata.)


If that's the case, how do I get to the metadata Finder lists in the preview window?


I could use the 'Keywords' or 'Description' or 'Movie information' sections to enter the information I need to help me sort through the files when I need a specific one...if I can find a way to get there.


Here are the questions about 'Keywords' or 'Description' or 'Movie information' (if you're still following along)...

Are any or all three of those user-editable? If so, how do I edit them?

Does the information in any or all three of those sections live with the file or is it Finder-specific or computer-specific?


I'm also open to other suggestions that would solve this challenge.


Thanks for your time. :)

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Posted on Sep 15, 2021 5:39 PM

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Sep 15, 2021 6:53 PM in response to randytheking

Not to knock your approach.... But many have found the Plex Media Server to be the way to go. It can sync to a Mac or iPad, etc.

https://plex.tv


It will take a given media folder of TV Shows, Movies, Music and automatically scan the files and grab all the metadata online in an automated fashion including artwork. It sure beats entering all the data by hand. Plus you can search on all the metadata. You can manually edit the metadata as well.





As to using Spotlight, Tags, and such; I believe Time Machine should actually back that metadata up as it's stored in the HFS+ / APFS file system.

Sep 16, 2021 12:33 AM in response to randytheking

A few years ago I copied all my image-related memos on paper and Excel to IPTC/XMP Captions and some people's names to Keywords (I also put a rating so only important images can be filtered). Now also that info travels with the images to relatives as an off-site backup.


I then exported the tags back to a spreadsheet as an extra backup -- glancing the info on a spreadsheet is also a fast way to spot errors with the original info. Photos.app reads Captions and Keywords OK and it seems iOS Photos is trailing behind.


I still have an Excel spreadsheet with memos for movies. But currently movie metadata support is a mess and a moving target so I have inserted that metadata only to a few movies.


It seems that currently there are several places to write Title, Description, Author and Keywords in H.264 .m4v, .mp4 and .mov. Keys seems to be the most robust place to write them.


https://exiftool.org/forum/index.php?topic=12176.0


https://exiftool.org/forum/index.php?topic=11329.0

Sep 16, 2021 4:32 AM in response to randytheking

Apple Finder tags are a file/folder attribute and as long as the entity travels in macOS or iCloud that tag remains with the entity metadata. Once the tagged file is placed on an operating system, or cloud solution not supported by Apple, that tag attribute will be stripped from the file and lost.


Each file (and this includes movie files) has a Finder comment field when you perform a Get Info (option+cmd+i), where you can enter information. I know from testing that the Finder comment field survives the road trip to Windows 10 and back, but did not test it with Ubuntu Linux 20.04 LTS.


Do not assume that any attributes assigned to your movies by third-party proprietary tools will be compatible with the Finder, Spotlight, or will travel well between hosts and operating systems.

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