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iPhone 13 pro lens flare

Are these signs of camera defects with my iPhone 13 Pro Max? I keep getting these lens flares when taking photos and videos with bright sources of light. Happens allot with the sun during day and bright lights during night.

iPhone 13 Pro Max, iOS 15

Posted on Sep 29, 2021 2:11 PM

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Posted on Sep 29, 2021 2:38 PM

Yes and they're normal. Before you take the photo, you can easily see the flares on the screen. Alter the angle of the phone relative to the bright lights and you can eliminate the flares.


While these two photos were taken on iPhone 12 Pro Max, you can see what I'm talking about.


This photo show lens flare:



Simply angling the camera differently without moving at all produced this photo:


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Oct 6, 2021 2:43 PM in response to Salvida

I think it’s fine…15 watts…..I don’t find thing need for more, at all and I think there’s some longevity on the components to be had by not maxing it out…


Magsafe is pretty slick on my Belkin wireless charger. 3-way stand…. Wasn’t big on the idea before actually using it and thought the magnetic mounts would be a harder pull off then they are. It’s perfectly calibrated, actually!


A little thing in a design change that actually is pretty slick! Never going back!

Oct 7, 2021 3:57 PM in response to Dæniøl

I have a 13 Pro Max, and an 11. There is far more apparent lens flare AND glare with the 13 vs the 11 as the cameras and lenses are more prominent. I shot a short film for my cinematography class at Harvard over the weekend, and as an exercise to show how far smartphones have come, were were instructed to only use our phones. I shot with both phones, and the 13 Pro Max had MUCH more lens flare. BUT the shots taken with the 13 were FANTASTIC and very clear (when I changed the angle to remove the lens flare). 


Reduce some of the glare & reflected light, and you'll get the shots you want. My film professor recommended a LENS HOOD. That is what professionals use to help solve the problem. And yes they do sell iPhone lens hoods - you can Google it. I tried to post some lens hoods with good reviews but it won’t let me as it’s flagged as advertising.


Also - here is a link to 60 seconds of the short that I shot with my iPhone 13 Pro Max at WaterFire Providence. I think the low light shots came out GREAT - check it out for yourself! 


Link to short - shot with 13 Pro Max: 


https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/625422537


Good luck! 


-Frank G

Oct 9, 2021 7:55 PM in response to Salvida

What was that thing about the reddit user who said the iOS 15 software removed some of the flares for him after the photo was taken? Anyone heard of him? He said he would see the flares on the screen before the shot was taken and after when he checked the photo, some of the flares was removed automatically by the software. Might have been something they tested in beta version, I havent heard more about it since the public iOS 15 came out.

Oct 9, 2021 8:02 PM in response to Salvida

Salvida wrote:

What was that thing about the reddit user who said the iOS 15 software removed some of the flares for him after the photo was taken? Anyone heard of him? He said he would see the flares on the screen before the shot was taken and after when he checked the photo, some of the flares was removed automatically by the software. Might have been something they tested in beta version, I havent heard more about it since the public iOS 15 came out.

That was what we call wishful thinking. Apple, nor any other camera system made in the world can bend the laws of photographic physics.

Oct 10, 2021 1:52 PM in response to lobsterghost1

Not about bending laws of physics, it was the software that did it or hardware, there was also pics shown where you could see it. It's been talked about on different tech sites also. So unless he was faking then ... But dont think so. Found this:


A less known iOS 15 feature removes lens flares from photos shot with an iPhone. This is done post processing with the help of the iPhone’s ISP (Image Signal Processor) hardware. Practically, the device is now able to detect unwanted lens flare and remove it from the frame during on-device post-processing.


Read more here: https://www.iphonetricks.org/how-to-remove-lens-flares-from-iphone-photos/


So as you see it's actually true.

Oct 10, 2021 2:21 PM in response to Salvida

So they reported on software built into iOS 15 before iOS 15 was ever released and we're supposed to take this as fact?


This article is pretty much hooey and proves nothing as it's from August, before iOS was officially released, before iPhone 13 series phones were released and not one other real reviewer has suggested this exists in any way shape or form in iOS 15.


Further, the article, which is clearly not based on any fact doesn't suggest the cameras remove lens flare. As we all know, cameras cannot remove lens flare. This is about post photo processing. I have software for post photo processing that I can use to remove lens flare. It's typically available in any really good photo editing software like Adobe Photoshop, and it's called a healing brush.


Oct 11, 2021 10:48 AM in response to lobsterghost1

As the article says this is done during on-device post-processing, iOS 15 been out for a while in beta so therefore plenty of time for people to test and see these things. If it still works now in the official public release I have no idea, will have to test this myself. I will report back if it works for me or not. But again like the article says it doesnt work in all scenarios.


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Oct 27, 2021 9:20 AM in response to Deerpark243

Deerpark243 wrote:

I agree I have always had "slight" lens flare all the way back to the iPhone 6, but I started noticing a considerable amount starting at the iPhone 11 Pro Max. and we should not have to angle our way out of it, this should not happen on a $1100.00 phone, they need to have the problem fixed.

That's isn't how flares work. You would have to angle your way out of flares on a $10,000 camera too. Flares are flares. There is NO sensor made which is immune to them. And the more light the camera itself can let into the sensor, the more common are flares.

Oct 27, 2021 9:27 AM in response to Fresnogreg

Yes, I had the same problems from the iPhone 6 all the way up to the 13 Pro Max and they have gotten progressively worse. I've been a photographer since 1985 and what I experienced was, I have a Nikon set up and would have to go out of my way to have lens flare in my shots for artistic reasons not by just panning the camera a slight amount. I called Apple on it and they tell everyone that they don't know what they are talking about.

Oct 27, 2021 9:42 AM in response to Deerpark243

Deerpark243 wrote:

I have read the thread and I know a lot about lens flare, from my Nikon's 1985-2021 so don't tell me that with a slight pan you should "deal" with that amount of lens flare.

Then complain to Apple. You are arguing against physics and limitations of cell phone capabilities with only other users and you are wasting your time here. You are not speaking with Apple. There is NO fix for this other than being more careful when you take photos. Like the answer or not, it's fact.

Oct 27, 2021 9:58 AM in response to lobsterghost1

Hi lobsterghost1, Great example. I showed my wife your pic examples because I was having a hard time seeing the difference, until she pointed it out to me. Different eyes see different things. I guess this is why they call photography an art. I just got my iPhone 13 Pro Max and really want learn the camera features. I have a lot of practice ahead of me. Thanks Much for the leasons.

Oct 28, 2021 1:04 AM in response to Dogcow-Moof

I agree all cameras have lens flare, but I've never seen it this bad on the iPhone. And I have complained to Apple, like many other people, Apple tells them that they didn't know there was a problem. There are many times I've used lens flare with my DSLRs for different effects I wanted without having to deal with it in post. But I do understand where you are coming from.

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