Clean install after Time Machine Backup

I'm in the process of making a Backup via Time Machine. EtreCheckupPro informs me of the following:


Minor Issues:

 These issues do not need immediate attention but they may indicate future problems or opportunities for improvement. 

 No Time Machine backup - Time Machine backup not found. (in process)


  •  Heavy RAM usage - Apps are using a large amount of RAM.
  • Apps with heavy CPU usage - There have been numerous cases of apps with heavy CPU usage.
  • Clean up - There are orphan files that could be removed.
  •  Unsigned files - There are unsigned software files installed. Apple has said that unsigned software

will not run by default in a future version of the operating system.

  • System modifications - There are a large number of system modifications running in the background.
  • x86-only Apps - This computer has x86-only apps might not work on future versions of the operating system.
  • Limited drive access - More information may be available with Full Drive Access.
  • Kernel extensions present - This computer has kernel extensions that may not work in the future.


These are some programs over which Apple has issues:


There are somewhat standard programs that would qualify as "modified" simply because Apple will flag them on opening requiring a bypass in Security and Privacy such as: OpenSCAD, FreeCAD, and Krita off the top of my head. After my Time Machine Backup, I'm going to want to clean install the OS. And I'm either going to want to reinstall from the App Store probably to ensure clean versions of the programs and go from there on the rest (several versions of Blender - because it changes so much from one version to the next, NordVPN, some other stuff for blender that comes from PIP a program used to install python based modules for an addon, Java. I've used MacPort and HomeBrew. Is that a problem? Inkscape and Gimp, I think install without a hitch. A few image viewers and video players VLC for example. XNView for images.


These are all well used and for the most part widely trusted.


Anything you can think of that might be a red flag. I might purchase and install EtreCheckPro. That's where a lot of this info is coming from. Based on input, I'm guessing it might, like CleanMyMac be more useful initially for information than action, depending on whether or not, and how its process differs from CleanMyMac.


That's what I've got.


What would you suggest / recommend?

MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 11.6

Posted on Oct 24, 2021 12:18 PM

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Oct 25, 2021 9:16 AM in response to fjunker

First, there is no reason to ever install or run any 3rd party "cleaning", "optimizing", "speed-up", anti-virus, VPN or security apps on your Mac.  This user tip describes what you need to know and do in order to protect your Mac: Effective defenses against malware and other threats - Apple Community.  


There are no known viruses, i.e. self propagating, for Macs.  There are, however, adware and malware which require the user to install although unwittingly most of the time thru sneaky links, etc.   


Anti Virus developers try to group all types as viruses into their ad campaigns of fear.  They do a poor job of the detecting and isolating the adware and malware.  Since there are no viruses these apps use up a lot of system resources searching for what is non-existent and adversely affect system and app performance.


There is one app, Malwarebytes, which was developed by a long time contributor to these forums and a highly respected member of the computer security community, that is desshoigned solely to seek out adware and known malware and remove it.  The free version is more than adequate for most users.  


Here's some food for thought: unless you're using a true VPN tunnel, such as between you and your employer's or bank's servers, they are useless from a privacy standpoint.  Read these two articles: Public VPN's are anything but private and Former Malware Distributor Kape Technologies Now Owns ExpressVPN, CyberGhost, Private Internet Access, Zenmate, and a Collection of VPN “Review” WebsitesHowever, that being said one of the most respected contributors to these forums and a respected developer has reported favorable about NordVPN.  So it may be more secure than most of the other public VPNs.


You have 2 VPNs installed. I would recommend that you uninstall Free VPN according to the developer's instructions.


You've also installed what most of the experienced users in the ASC consider akin to malware: CleanMyMac. Uninstall it according to the developer's instructions. You can check to see if you've removed all of the supporting files by downloading and running the shareware app Find Any File to search for any files with the application's or the developer's name in the file name.  For the CMM software you'd do the following search(es): 


1 - Name contains cleanmymac


Any files that are found can be dragged from the search results window to the Desktop or Trash bin in the Dock for deletion.


FAF can search areas that Spotlight can't like invisible folders, system folders and packages.  



Oct 25, 2021 10:09 AM in response to Old Toad

I've deleted CleanMyMac (that was a $ 90 waste of money). I've also deleted all files for VPN. Both based on the findings of "Find Any File".


At this point do I still need to do a clean install, or, have I done enough?


Working on a Time Machine Backup. Got one 5 TB external drive and a 2 TB drive that wasn't enough. However I can use the 2 TB drive to clean out what's currently on the 5 TB drive and use the 5 TB drive for TMB's. Absent the awareness of the existence of the first 5 TB external drive, I'd ordered another 5 TB drive, so I should have a handle on redundancy.


Anything else?

Oct 25, 2021 10:21 AM in response to fjunker

fjunker wrote:

1 - At this point do I still need to do a clean install, or, have I done enough?

2 - I can use the 2 TB drive to clean out what's currently on the 5 TB drive and use the 5 TB drive for TMB's. Absent the awareness of the existence of the first 5 TB external drive, I'd ordered another 5 TB drive, so I should have a handle on redundancy.

1 - I'd run for a while as is and see if the performance is any better.


2 - unless you have files on the 2TB TM drive that you don't have on your boot drive I'd erase the TM drive before copying over the files from the 5TM drive.



Oct 25, 2021 11:10 AM in response to Old Toad

I will. It's the 5 TB drive I'm trying to use for my TMB. For that it needs to be empty. And the 2 TB drive is where I'm moving the files from the 5 TB so that it can be used for my TMB. Formatting the 2 TB while good and useful, doesn't help unless I then fill it with the files from the 5 TB and format that drive to Mac's desirable format: APFS. Currently it's Formatted for Linux: Extra FAT.


I'd kinda like to have a backup of the files on the 5 TB drive before formatting it.

Oct 25, 2021 10:13 AM in response to fjunker

"First, there is no reason to ever install or run any 3rd party "cleaning", "optimizing", "speed-up", anti-virus, VPN or security apps on your Mac.  This user tip describes what you need to know and do in order to protect your Mac: Effective defenses against malware and other threats - Apple Community."


Most of what is recommended, I do, and am doing. Especially since the feedback, yours and others from the EtreCheckPro report.



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