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Is Monterey replacing Big Sur?

Is Monterey replacing Big Sur or are we going to have two sets of updates taking even longer? So far I have only updated Big Sur and disabled the automatic updates until Monterey is mature with no bugs and a good reason for installing.

Mac mini, macOS 11.6

Posted on Oct 29, 2021 4:34 AM

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Posted on Oct 29, 2021 8:32 AM

however would it not have been useful to explain what was intended rather than have both OS's shown with the same update request?


https://www.apple.com/feedback/


All you have to do is an internet search "Apple Monterey Problems" and see if there are any hits!


As you're obviously new to this I suggest that you also do an internet search on 'Apple Big Sur Problems' and see if there are any hits. And equally on any - or even all - of the previous versions of the OS. It will show that every time there is a new OS there are a number of posts and articles detailing problems folks have had with the new release. I'll even make a bold prediction: when the next version of the OS is released, possibly next year, a similar search will yield similar results.


But don't bother. It really tells you very little. It doesn't tell you which problems are not actually issues at all, but misunderstandings where the user is unsure of what is meant to happen. It doesn't weed out all the issues that are not due to the OS at all, but to damaged hardware, faulty downloads, interrupted installations and so on. Neither do the exclude issues that are due to apps or drivers requiring a simple update. In fact, millions upon millions of users have (or will) install Monterey with no issues - as they will will/have with iOS 15. There are two important things to learn from this


  1. always have an up-to-date back up prior to upgrading anything, anytime
  2. Internet search are useless with out an understanding of the context.
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Oct 29, 2021 8:32 AM in response to Apple_core_follower

however would it not have been useful to explain what was intended rather than have both OS's shown with the same update request?


https://www.apple.com/feedback/


All you have to do is an internet search "Apple Monterey Problems" and see if there are any hits!


As you're obviously new to this I suggest that you also do an internet search on 'Apple Big Sur Problems' and see if there are any hits. And equally on any - or even all - of the previous versions of the OS. It will show that every time there is a new OS there are a number of posts and articles detailing problems folks have had with the new release. I'll even make a bold prediction: when the next version of the OS is released, possibly next year, a similar search will yield similar results.


But don't bother. It really tells you very little. It doesn't tell you which problems are not actually issues at all, but misunderstandings where the user is unsure of what is meant to happen. It doesn't weed out all the issues that are not due to the OS at all, but to damaged hardware, faulty downloads, interrupted installations and so on. Neither do the exclude issues that are due to apps or drivers requiring a simple update. In fact, millions upon millions of users have (or will) install Monterey with no issues - as they will will/have with iOS 15. There are two important things to learn from this


  1. always have an up-to-date back up prior to upgrading anything, anytime
  2. Internet search are useless with out an understanding of the context.

Oct 29, 2021 6:29 AM in response to Apple_core_follower

Apple_core_follower wrote:
...automatic updates until Monterey is mature with no bugs and a good reason for installing.

As complex as operating systems are these days and the millions of computers with untold number of variations in installed software and attached hardware and the wide range of user computer "savvy" there will always be an issue with someone with any operating system install, i. e. you will be waiting forever for a "bug free" version.


However, a large majority of people will be installing and using Monterrey 12.0.1 without issue. And of course , there will be things found and fixed because of the operating system being released to millions vs, beta testing with just a few thousand.


How long to wait depends on your circumstances, the apps and hardware you own. You can also just do due diligence on your own and check compatibility of your apps and hardware with the OS and plans by the various vendors to become compatible, if they are not already. Then decide if you want to upgrade.


Also, if you have a sound backup strategy, the risk would be low in terms of recovering to a pre-upgrade state.

Oct 29, 2021 7:00 AM in response to Yer_Man

Thanks for the info; however would it not have been useful to explain what was intended rather than have both OS's shown with the same update request? A name change suggests a significant software rewrite and not just an update.


It appears to look as if any update should now be treated with suspicion as with the 15 "update" on the iPhones. I did not update until 15.0.2 was released. ( There is now a 15.1 ready to download! Guess what I will be doing!)


All you have to do is an internet search "Apple Monterey Problems" and see if there are any hits!


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Oct 29, 2021 7:12 AM in response to Apple_core_follower

No product produced by humans is perfect and never will be.


We have Monterey running without problems on three iMacs (2020,2020,2015) and two MacBook Pros (2016, 2020).


If the past portends future events, Apple will be issuing updates for Monterey as they have for all other products.


It's a personal decision on your part whether to ever upgrade an Apple product or any other for that matter.

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